A question: when does trashing our elections become treason?

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Friday September 25, 2020 · 2:07 PM PDT

2020/09/25 · 14:07

Long time reader, rarely post...I think it is safe to say we are all becoming increasingly worried about Trump’s pronouncements about the election not being fair, his not honoring the results, and demanding the ballots be thrown out. Isn’t this actually the same as saying he will overthrow our Republican style government, that is elected by the people? So then isn’t this Treason? I believe it is, I think the media needs to start calling it this, and people who silently or verbally agree with his statements should be held accountable. This is serious shit — how can we start shaping the public discourse about this?

Hey Biden - You Need Us Progressives To Get Elected (not Republicans)

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Tuesday March 03, 2020 · 12:15 PM PST

2020/03/03 · 12:15

ScreenShot2020-03-03at1.16.02PM.png — no no no!

A quick rant:

I saw the other posted article on the rec list today “Biden Open to a Republican Running Mate”...and my immediate reaction was WTF!?!?! This is a giant Biden gaff, imho...if he does happen to win the nomination over Sanders and Warren, he is already going to be facing a tremendous amount of disillusionment from the Progressive/Left, the young, People of Color and many Working Class people. So Shut the F*ck UP about having a Republican as a VP will ya!

What Biden will need to do is encourage and inspire the voters with a great Vice-President pick...like Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams...or a high profile Latino person, grooming someone who can lead us into the future (and also step in to become a good president should his health fail etc). Come on man, THINK!!

So if anyone out there has Biden’s ear...please tell him he is making a huge strategic error...the same one Obama made...trying to appease Republicans. Stop IT!! Be more smart!!

End of rant...

Trump the Socialist

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Saturday June 29, 2019 · 10:20 AM PDT

2019/06/29 · 10:20

I don’t know about you, but this whole attempt by Trump and the Republican party to somehow label the Democratic Party as “socialist” is laughable. If socialism is a political and economic approach that re-distributes wealth, then Trump is the biggest Socialist of all: He is a Socialist in supporting Corporations over the rest of us, he is a Socialist supporting the Fossil Fuel Industry over our health and safety, he is a Socialist supporting his wealthy friends over the good of the country, he is a Socialist supporting Dictators over Democracy, and he is a Socialist in support of making his family even richer while taking from us. Not to mention being a “National Socialist” racist and fascist.

I am probably not stating as very clearly as I could, but I hope someone in the Democratic Party with better knowledge on this subject calls Trump on this.

Rothkopf: "Something broke in America this week..."

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Saturday April 13, 2019 · 7:27 AM PDT

2019/04/13 · 07:27

Good morning...I rarely post articles here, but felt the need to share with you this twitter feed from David Rathkopf, PhD, who used to be the Editor of Chief for “Foreign Policy”. Over the last few years I have taken up reading the twitter feeds of various journalists and political experts, because frankly I just don’t get enough news from the Main Stream Media to suit needs. I found Dr Rothkopf a few years back, and while he typically is a moderate/Left type person, he has been completely direct and outspoken on the horrors of Trump and the Trump administration, etc. Yesterday Dr Rothkopf posted a tweeter feed that is downright scary about where we are right now, and I urge everyone to read it! (and don’t worry, you don’t have to be on Twitter to read it!)

Click on this link:

mobile.twitter.com/...

Why can't a President be indicted?

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Wednesday August 22, 2018 · 7:29 PM PDT

2018/08/22 · 19:29

For the last year and a half I have been hearing that “sitting Presidents can’t be indicted”...and every time I hear this it pisses me off! This is a Republic, and we all stand equal under the law. If a sitting President commits a felony, he or she needs to pay the price like the rest of us. Where does this come from that a President can’t be charged and be required to face the charges in Court? As there are many people who write or comment on this site who are involved in the justice world, I would be keen to hear your take on why a sitting President who has committed a felony shouldn’t be treated like the rest of this. I really want to hear what the arguments are, on both sides of this question. Thanks, in advance, for your input

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Swiss Left wins National vote against cuts in Social Security

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Monday March 08, 2010 · 2:59 AM PST

2010/03/08 · 02:59

I was really wondering if the Swiss people would vote against their own best interests and do what ALL the politically Right and far-Right wing parties would told them to: To lower the amount of Social Security an old person will receive in retirement. (!!) The only parties to fight this referendum were the Social Democrats, Greens and the Labor Unions (UNIA, etl al).

BUT!! Much to my surprise and delight, the Swiss people slapped down the Swiss Parliament and Right Wing parties...HARD! (see below)

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Tuesday July 21, 2009 · 5:04 AM PDT

2009/07/21 · 05:04

Okay, so I was wondering who was on the Senate Finance Committee, since they are the ones slowing things down on the Senate side. And there are 13 (corrected - thank you) Democrats and 10 Republicans - which makes me wonder - why do we need the Republicans at all? I think we know the answer, because some Democrats won't support the President. Let's take a look at the list:

Democrats:

MAX BAUCUS, MT
 JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, WV
 KENT CONRAD, ND
 JEFF BINGAMAN, NM
 JOHN F. KERRY, MA
 BLANCHE L. LINCOLN, AR
 RON WYDEN, OR
 CHARLES E. SCHUMER, NY
 DEBBIE STABENOW, MI
 MARIA CANTWELL, WA 
BILL NELSON, FL
 ROBERT MENENDEZ, NJ 
THOMAS CARPER, DE

REPUBLICANS

CHUCK GRASSLEY, IA
 ORRIN G. HATCH, UT
 OLYMPIA J. SNOWE, ME
 JON KYL, AZ 
JIM BUNNING, KY
 MIKE CRAPO, ID
 PAT ROBERTS, KS
 JOHN ENSIGN, NV
 MIKE ENZI, WY
 JOHN CORNYN, TX

So what do we know about the Democrats on this list? Who's for us, and who is against us on the Health Care bill?

Farting Ice - Arctic Methane!

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Wednesday April 08, 2009 · 12:50 AM PDT

2009/04/08 · 00:50

Perhaps someone here at Dkos has already posted this, but I just got shown this at a conference last weekend, and the ramifications of melting permafrost is downright scary: the release of methane could quickly speed up global warming. Check this little video out showing two people lighting methane coming up under arctic lakes:

Farting Ice

What do you think?

Greider: prevent institutionalization of corporate state

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Saturday March 28, 2009 · 4:02 AM PDT

2009/03/28 · 04:02

From Friday's Bill Moyers show: Greider: prevent"institutionalization" of the "corporate state"

BILL MOYERS: A corporate state?
WILLIAM GREIDER: A corporate state. And by that I mean a rather small but very powerful circle of financial institutions the old Wall Street banks, famous names. But also some industrial corporations that bought banks. Or General Electric, which is already half of big financial capital, GE Capital. And that circle will be our new Wall Street club. Too big to fail. Yes, watched closely by the Federal Reserve and others in government, but also protected by them. And that's a really insidious departure. To admit that and put it into law. And then think of all those thousands of smaller banks. How are they going to perform against these behemoths that have an inside track to the government spigot? And for just ordinary enterprise in general? Before you even get to the citizens. How are citizens supposed to feel about that?

This is just a shock for me to read this...it scares the shit out of me, actually! (H/T to Marco)

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Sunday March 22, 2009 · 2:01 AM PDT

2009/03/22 · 02:01

I didn't see anythng posted here on this, and it is imortant. Posted over at Firedoglake

http://firedoglake.com/...

Here's the last part of his statement:

If I were a member of Congress, I would offer a resolution blocking Treasury from making the low-cost loans it expects to offer the PPIPs, until GAO or the FDIC has conducted an INDEPENDENT EXAMINATION OF THE LOAN TAPES underlying each class of securitized assets, and reported on the prevalence of missing documentation, misrepresentation, and signs of fraud. In the absence of a credible rating, this is the minimum due diligence that any private investor would require.

I hope what I'm driving at, here, is clear.

Sounds pretty clear, get your faxes, emails and phone calls ready and stay tuned...and check out FCL for the full letter

No over-confidence: give, vote & get out the vote!

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Thursday October 23, 2008 · 1:20 AM PDT

2008/10/23 · 01:20

Sitting here in Switzerland, it is excruciating to watch the days slowly pass before election. I have voted (yes we can!), and have given more than I should have, and will some more, but now must wait. And watching what is going on from outside the US, I just want to remind all of us to stay focused, and despite all we are reading, not to be over-confident. We must be hungry, we must bring this home. So give some more money, make sure to vote (and vote early!), and help others to get out to vote in any way you can!! (I know you are, but I'm just encouraging you!!).

We are voting for peace and justice. We are voting for jobs and a functioning economy. We are voting for our environment. We are voting for our children and grandchildren. We are voting for better relationships with the world! (They can't vote but want us to!!). We are voting for so much more.

But we need to beware - there are people who will vote for fear, for hate, for division, for bigotry - and they are motivated, because they know that their way of seeing and doing things is being seriously challenged. We want our country back!! Lets bring this home!!! (And thanks to the Dkos community and beyond for all the incredible work you have been doing - I learn something new everyday, and it keeps me connected!!).

Going on offense

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Monday August 04, 2008 · 2:15 AM PDT

2008/08/04 · 02:15

This is a mini-rant: To use a basketball analogy, watching the campaigns from where i sit in Switzerland, I see that McSame came up with a new offensive (in more ways than one) strategy in the last week that has Obama on his heels. I agree with the great post of earlier that getting into a pie fight isn't the way to do it - but also agree with many who are worried about just sitting back and taking the punches. I really believe Obama needs to go on the offense himself - now!

And how should Obama go on offense? I imagine we all have ideas - and it would be fun to hear them - but my idea is that Obama should assertively start throwing McSame's voting record at him in commercials. All his votes against helping our service people (note Keith Olbermann's great report last week); his anti-education votes; his anti-environmental votes; his anti-choice votes; his VOTING ALONG WITH BUSH 95% of the time!!!

I am not sure if team Obama is playing rope-a-dope or what, but I think he can't lay back and take punches too long, because he is getting defined by McSame. It is time that Obama start defining McSame - GO ON OFFENCE!!

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