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  •  I must admit I agree with commentors that say it (8+ / 0-)

    leads back to Obama. It is pretty clear where his actual loyalties begin and end.  

    Even today, he still has one of the creators of this mess, Littel Timmeh by his side.  Talk about fucking bizzaro mondo.  Put the bankster criminals in jail for starts! Tim Geithner should be in JAIL rather than SEcretary of the fucking Treasury.  Fucking fox in charge of the henhouse.  Wassup wit dat?

    Even today with a political protest movement vibrant enough to shake the globe, Obama still sits on his hands and mouths empty fine sounding speeches and in reality does nothing to punish the criminals that put us in this place.  

    He said, "make me do the right thing" but he will not recognize the will of the 99% but worships at the altar of the 1%.  

    History, if we still have a Democracy when this is over, will rate him as a fool.  Sorry.  MY Opinion.

    Unless there is a radical change in Mr. Obama's  behavior I can't in good conscience vote for him again let alone send his campaign any money.

    •  Alan Grayson needs to primary Mr. Obama. (0+ / 0-)

      At least then we will get some coverage of the issues, because let's face it, it doesn't matter to the 99% if he gets elected again, he will do the same thing.

    •  Unfortunately the voters of this country (2+ / 0-)
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      will be in the same situation in November 2012 that Republican primary voters will find themselves in shortly.

    •  Sounds like Obama is a sexist (2+ / 0-)

      much like his staffers. Talking over the heads of women advisors while undermining them is classic sexist behavior.  

      He still treats Hillary Clinton in a somewhat demeaning fashion from time to time.

      "When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" Eleanor Roosevelt

      by Betty Pinson on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 10:03:55 AM PDT

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      •  That may be true Betty, but Hillary is pretty (1+ / 0-)
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        doctrinaire these days.  I thought she would be tough, but she just presents like any other male or female bureaucrat in her role at State.  To me she appears brutal and condescending.   Nothing special there now.

        She was burned big time and swallowing all that bile after the primary didn't improve her attitude.  

        The diamond necklace she wore at her last conference could buy and sell me twice over.  Stones big enough to choke on.  I would hate to work for her if her TeeVee persona is at all based on her day to day behavior.  

      •  Can you for once justify your accusation? (1+ / 0-)
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        Sounds like Obama is a sexist much like his staffers. Talking over the heads of women advisors while undermining them is classic sexist behavior.  

        He still treats Hillary Clinton in a somewhat demeaning fashion from time to time.

        I don't know if it's just unresolved second-wave horseshit that you willfully refuse to evolve from, but you've been accusing him and his 2008 campaign as being abusive toward women (including their "wives and girlfriends") ever since you decided to grace us with your presence after the primaries.

        So why not take the opportunity to own your accusation and provide the community with a diary that details exactly how much President Obama hates women?  If it's so clear and obvious, it should be an easy task, right?

        It's interesting that you've dialed down your rhetoric since the new moderation rules have been put in place: you allege to be some great, pure, dyed-in-the-wool Democratic activist; you throw these accusations against the wall as undisputed fact, but yet you can't articulate -- with citations --  the many offenses President Obama has made against women?  Do you throw shit against the wall because that's all you have left, of because you enjoy the odor?  I assure you that's a serious question.

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        by hey mister on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 08:09:39 PM PDT

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        •  According to Ron Suskind's book (0+ / 0-)

          Women in Obama's WH felt excluded and ignored, based on first hand accounts.

          There seems to be a pattern.

          "When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" Eleanor Roosevelt

          by Betty Pinson on Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 09:12:51 PM PDT

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          •  That's one book that may or may not be accurate (0+ / 0-)

            I'm with Hey Mister:  produce your evidence.  I don't buy it, and I'm not sure I believe Andrews' article.  I'm also not sure that Elizabeth Warren is all that much different from the rest of the politicians - she's very articulate about one subject, but her web site is nothing but a grab for money, it's impossible to find out where she's going to appear next, and she hasn't given her positions on anything but finance.

            And worst of all?  She hasn't said a WORD about the arrests at Occupy Boston.  Not one.  Those people are out there challenging the very banks she decries, and she hasn't so much as sent them a box of doughnuts or paid them an anonymous visit.  All she's done is crow about how much money she's raised, and y'know?  That's just not good enough.

            •  Suskind's book is accurate (0+ / 0-)

              The women he interviewed agree with his portrayal of their conversations.

              Link

              I also choose to believe Elizabeth Warren, as do most others familiar with her work. She's been an upstanding, honest public advocate so far and there's nothing to indicate her account in the VF interview is dishonest.  

              You should make up your mind about her record, praising her, then condemning her from comment to comment in this forum.

              "When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" Eleanor Roosevelt

              by Betty Pinson on Fri Oct 14, 2011 at 03:39:12 PM PDT

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              •  I'll make up my mind on my own timeline (0+ / 0-)

                Right now I see both good ideas and bad execution.  Giving her a free pass because of a couple of videos and a lot of adulation? Not going to happen.

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