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  •  You appear to be very confused. (5+ / 0-)

    Name one person in this comments thread prior to your comment who suggested that property damage was not really violence. Name them. Quote them. Link them.

    I'll wait while you search. Since you sound like you have some specific comments clearly in mind, it shouldn't take you long to find them.

    Except that you can't, and won't, because there weren't any. I'm sure you can nutpick comments of that variety from some other thread, but that has no relevance whatsoever to this incident or anything the diarist--or anyone else here--had said.

    It was nothing more than an excuse to take a cheap shot at Occupy protesters, and you know it. Your comment history makes it pretty clear that you think OWS is a waste of time at best.

    So go troll somewhere else.

    Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.

    by Catsy on Fri Nov 11, 2011 at 02:59:40 PM PST

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    •  I wasn't referring to this thread alone (0+ / 0-)

      In fact nowhere did I say such comments are in this thread (though some may appear in time...you never know).  The problem is that you made a bad assumption and, based on that error, evidently got your back up. I would suggest that's your problem; not mine.

      I can assure you the idea that property destruction is "not violence" has been put forth in other comments, as noted below.

      I wasn't trying to make a "cheap shot."  I was merely highlighting that there are those on both sides of the issue who are torturing the word "violence" to mean what they want it to; no matter what the word actually means.

      As far as what I think, I believe the Occupy movement accomplished much in the first few weeks but is now overstaying its welcome like a weeks-old catfish.  I've been encouraging people to move on to other tactics, but without much traction. I believe the movement is on a trajectory that is not encouraging.

      On to the examples:

      Publius2008 had this to say:

      Just to say (6+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
          LaughingPlanet, averageyoungman, elwior, wu ming, Little, Knarfc

      property damage is not violence.

      And, just to be clear, when I called him or her on it, saying that would be true only if you want to redefine "violence," hy/she responded:  

      I do.

      Then there's this succinct statement by RanDomino:

      Vandalism is not violence (2+ / 0-)

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          ohmproject, Brown Thrasher

      by RanDomino on Wed Nov 02, 2011 at 05:28:48 PM PDT

      I believe there was a diary with that as its subject but I can't find it so it may have been removed.

    •  And here is a new diary claiming just that (0+ / 0-)

      It leads off with what you describe as "nut"picking:

      1.  Property damage is not violence.

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