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  •  Here in Charlotte (so far, anyway) (26+ / 0-)

    The tents are up at the old courthouse, and quietly tolerated but I think there is a reason for that.

    The site in question is a bit out of the way, from the perspective of the Big Banks.

    It's rather a feature not a flaw that technically there are no officially public spaces within, oh, 600 meters of either of the major banking institutions here.

    Which seems to be a really, really good approach to splitting the difference between rights of expression, all the purported municipal and health code concerns and not pouring gasoline on the situation.

    And Charlotte's hardly a NON banker town.

    Now, if OWS were to try and camp out in the Atrium (Wells Fargo territory) or Founders Hall (BofA country), I think there'd be a serious ruckus.

    The cute little park with the statues near the New Mint Museum, across from the Convention Center.. I think that's a Zucotti-like private/public space... and occupation there would almost certain wind up the local constabulary.

    Homeless folks, however... they don't seem to get the same razz from law enforcement, so long as they disappear at night.

    Which goes to show - being public and invisible is fine.

    Make a noise, and reap the whirlwind.

    •  Hmm, should quickly clarify (10+ / 0-)

      There is a difference between 'what seems reasonable' and why it's so 'seemly' - protest out of sight and out of mind works famously for people who don't want it noticed.

    •  then don't camp out, SIT IN! (8+ / 0-)

      What to do about all those nice non-public places within 600 meters (1800 feet, approx.) of bankster banks:

      Sit in!  Get a big crowd and just go sit.  

      Leave clear aisles to the entrances if you have enough people, just so you're not "blocking entrances."  

      Or don't leave aisles to the entrances: block the doors, do it for ten minutes, flash-mob style, and then scoot! or at least go back to a wholly legal picket with signs and so on.  

      When the police arrive they'll be all "huh?!" because by that time either everyone will have scooted or everyone will be the nicest most orderly demonstration the police ever saw.  And then if you really want to surprise them bigtime, have a spokesperson go talk to their commanding officer on the scene and let him know you'll all leave as soon as they give the order!  Chances are they'll let you stay, but if not, then: "Mic Check!  The police want us to scoot!  So now we're going to scoot!" and then total silence and disperse, with smiles.

      That kind of stuff will get media because it's so unexpected.  

      Strike at random: this bankster bank today, a different one two days later, nothing for a week, then another one, then nothing for a few days, then another.  Make it totally unpredictable.  And occasionally re-visit places you've picketed and sat-in before, for just five minutes, like right at 12:00 Noon when the lunch crowd are heading out.  

      It's all about flexibility of tactics, and creativity on your feet.

      And the best part is, this gets totally outside the box of street-level confrontations and puts it on a whole new level of getting the message out by doing things that are unpredictable but can't seriously be condemned by anyone who doesn't want to seem like a fatuous ass.  Do it with style and with humor, and it will make our real enemies in the high towers look like the arseholes they are.  

      This is how to shift public opinion and get mass support.

      "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 09:47:12 AM PST

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      •  Flash sit-ins are good..... (4+ / 0-)
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        ....as are street linings.....more people will get the message with 10 people on 50 corners than 500 people in one park or square...

        9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

        by varro on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:15:07 AM PST

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        •  So THAT's what it's called! Street linings! (4+ / 0-)
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          I had another name for it but that doesn't matter.  Street Linings it is!  

          Yes, I love that tactic.

          Totally legal, totally peaceful, and totally effective at covering a very very large area and getting the message out to a huge number of people who otherwise might have detoured around a march or a crowd.  

          Also goes well with "Honk if you're in the 99%!"  You can stir up a nice noisy ruckus that way (horns hooting) without any risk of things going bad.  

          All of which gets uncommitteds curious, puts them in a vaguely jolly mood, and brings them over to our side like few other tactics do.  

          "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

          by G2geek on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:20:06 AM PST

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          •  That's just what I call it... (4+ / 0-)

            ....and it doesn't block the streets, either....and courts here (Oregon) have ruled that horn-honking is protected speech, and tickets written against drivers were invalid.

            I also like the idea of Steampunk people dressing in period dress parroting how the banks are good and the line "Are there no prisons?   Are there no workhouses?" like the pre-ghosts Scrooge.

            9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

            by varro on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 12:35:14 PM PST

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      •  yep. we can learn from the guerrillas (1+ / 0-)
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        They don't "take and hold"---they "take, hold a little while, then move somewhere else".

        It's harder to grab a moving target. And as a side bonus, every pig-dog in the area stays up at nights wondering whether they are the target tomorrow.

      •  Occupying (1+ / 0-)
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        the parking lots of major businesses might work-too.

        No place to park?

        Oh well.

         Just a thought.

        "Power is a fleeting thing. One day your souls will be required of you." Bishop Peter Storey---Central Methodist Mission, Johannesburg, June 1981

        by lyvwyr101 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 03:41:34 PM PST

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