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  •  We are never gonna have a God that reaches down (16+ / 0-)

    and smacks our enemies. But we do have some built in stuff that is just awesome and you might think some Creator had actually given some thought to the matter. For instance in these trying moments and in the effort of pushing back and creating a new space for ourselves, a great out welling of creativity is happening.  I've been told that this happened in earlier movements as well.  I am not all that observant sometimes, but I do recall I took advantage of some of the things that came out of the 70 feminism movement.

    So just the effort of making changes calls forth creativity. And we are gonna need all that we can get. Do your pushing as well and see what happens.

    Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain

    by glitterscale on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 11:59:40 AM PST

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    •  I know that isn't going to happen... (16+ / 0-)
      We are never gonna have a God that
      reaches down and smacks our enemies

      I've lived through the 60's, the 70's, the 80's, the 90's
      and George Bush and have never seen anything quite
      like what's going on today.  It's surreal and quite
      unnerving to see the changes that have happened
      to this country over the last 50 years.  Seems like a
      Twilight Zone episode without the music.  I am trying by
      making phone calls and getting out into the community
      involved in local politics and helping those less fortunate.
      But I still want to wake up from this bad dream.... sigh....  

      "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." Ansel Adams..............................................................."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers

      by Statusquomustgo on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 01:02:08 PM PST

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      •  It is awful. I have never seen such a rush (10+ / 0-)

        to figure out ways to screw us by the so-call representatives.

        Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain

        by glitterscale on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 01:08:49 PM PST

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      •  This Is Like Nothing We've Ever Seen Here. (10+ / 0-)

        Ever.

        I've lived through the 60's, the 70's, the 80's, the 90's
        and George Bush and have never seen anything quite
        like what's going on today.  It's surreal and quite
        unnerving to see the changes that have happened
        to this country over the last 50 years

        I was born in 1959 so I was a kid when the civil rights marches, voting rights, segregation, busing and Vietnam protests were going on but I understood that certain groups of people in this country were getting oppressed and worse and I didn't like that.

        This is far worse than that in part because this affects multiple demographics groups: young, middle age, seniors, veterans, college grads, homeowners, the poor, the unemployed; it's multi-racial, affects both men and women - basically it's 1000's of people with the potential to be millions more!!  Add to that the fact that we are a global civilization and this very thing has been and continues to go on around the world - and you have an epidemic of greed, corruption, brutality, arrogance and now fear for their status quo - the likes of which we've never witnessed.

        What seems surreal is us witnessing the now exponential acceleration of greed, corruption, brutality, arrogance and unaccountability because we, as an electorate were either asleep at the wheel and didn't participate in this thing called democracy, or were duped into voting against our best interests as middle class Americans.  Democracy as the first syllable of this word indicates (demos "people", kratein "rule") is more than a concept - it is a living, breathing process that will die or become diseased as it is now - if not participated in by ALL, or as many as can be enlisted to participate.

        The right wing beast never slept, not since the 50s, got a foothold again in the 70s, continued the march in the 80s and 90s and really let fly its destructive nature during the 2000 Bush years.  Sadly it's been perpetuated and even in some cases accelerated by this current administration.

        Sorry to go on like that...

        We must fight.  We must stay strong.  We must not be broken.  There is a Proverb that says a chord of many strands is not easily broken.  The 99%ers MUST remain many strands.

        When everybody talkin' all at once no one can hear the wise one speak, So just be still and silence will provide the wisdom that you seek - by Tori del Allen

        by Dumas EagerSeton on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 03:07:23 PM PST

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        •  I agree with you, I was just thinking on the way (5+ / 0-)

          home this isn't like the 60's they are targeting us all, white,
          black, latino, everyone.  I don't think that Obama is trying
          to perpetuate it, but I've been wrong before.

          "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." Ansel Adams..............................................................."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers

          by Statusquomustgo on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 03:20:48 PM PST

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          •  Yes which is why this is a genuine class war! (7+ / 0-)

            Rich vs. poor and they've been building their arsenal for decades politically, judicially (SCOTUS), legislatively, financially, in the media, and created and continue to dupe weak-minded individuals or haters to their cause like Teaparty nincompoops for example!

            As for President Obama I have to believe that since the DHS is an "agency" of the Fed that he is informed of what they're up to.  He needs plausible deniability which is why it's [crickets] from the Administration.  

            He wants to be re-elected, needs 1%ers money so the fix was in almost from the get-go and for certain after Citizen v. United became law of the land.

            We as a movement definately need to hang in there.  Regroup, get creative, keep it going and build it up stronger.

            Otherwise we, our children and our children's children are facing a third world lifestyle of misery.

            When everybody talkin' all at once no one can hear the wise one speak, So just be still and silence will provide the wisdom that you seek - by Tori del Allen

            by Dumas EagerSeton on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 04:13:17 PM PST

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            •  Don't worry. We aren't going away. We are (3+ / 0-)

              Americans.  This country was begun as a protest against abuses of authority.  The first ten Amendments to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights - were written in response to threats of abuse of authority right here in America.  
              It's time to exercise those rights to see just how many of them have been compromised.  Those rights are our muscles - and if we don't exercise them occasionally, we become weak and atrophied.
              The time is NOW.

              #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

              by Evolutionary on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 06:02:01 PM PST

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    •  actually, i think there is a god who is just (5+ / 0-)
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      JustJennifer, KenBee, ozsea1, lotlizard, elwior

      about to put a lot of things right, in ways that may surprise and even delight you, but could never hae figured on.  

      just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it can't or won't.  i think a lot of people on earth think they can just effing run amok because 'there is no god'.  they're in for a surprise, imo.

      'We apologise for any inconvenience during essential global improvement works' - sign on the front steps of St. Paul's, OccupyLondon.

      by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 01:28:02 PM PST

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    •  What is the phrase (3+ / 0-)

      God helps those who help themselves. What I have noticed in just shy of 50 years is just when things seem to be at their worst something will come along and change everything. god or dumb luck it really doesn't matter just keep putting one foot in front of the other.

      It's always darkest before the dawn, another old saying that seems to hold true

      It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

      by PSWaterspirit on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 02:57:14 PM PST

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