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  •  If you had to try to sleep (15+ / 0-)

    without shelter in subzero temperatures, wouldn't you drink?

    Doesn't matter how tired I am (and I was in the Navy, I've been 72+ hours worth of tired) - I can't sleep outside in winter sober. Drinking may not be safe, and it may not be good for you, and all that, but there's a point where it sure as hell feels like the lesser of the evils. Comes shortly before you start hallucinating.

    "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

    by kyril on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 06:42:09 AM PST

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    •  Yes I have slept outside in the very cold without (16+ / 0-)

      a tent or good bag. But it was by my own choice. Those guys do it night after night because they have to.

      People drink for lots of reasons, a lot of severe alcoholics end up on the streets because they can't keep an apartment and no one wants them, boozers are hell to live with. But still they are people, they are our countrymen, and they live amongst us, and until they can care for themselves it is incumbent upon us to care for them.

      As Happy in NM said, the guilt is more ours than Reagan's. Reagan is dead, we are living now.

      "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

      by ban nock on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 07:33:22 AM PST

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      •  Another item to add to the list of corrections (1+ / 0-)
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        needed, Check.  Re-institute services needed to help American Citizens that are mentally ill.  Russia isn't going to help them, China isn't going to help them, nor is Britain, nor is France.  Because they are Americans.
        So, shouldn't America be helping Americans that are starving, freezing, mentally ill, or just plain poor?  No one else is going to.  The Churches very obviously don't have the capacity.  

        Yet another item on the list.

        #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

        by Evolutionary on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 04:54:06 PM PST

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