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  •  This is nothing new (19+ / 0-)

    1893: People protesting in DC for jobs were arrested. 1894: Over 100,000 railroad workers go on strike, President Grover Cleveland sends in the Army to break it up. WWI thousands of Americans were arrested for even speaking out against the war. WWII thousands of Japanese-Americans were put in internment camps.

    The police state has always been here. It becomes more open when people are actively resisting.

    "Poor man wanna be rich, Rich man wanna be King, and the King ain't satisfied till he rules everything." Bruce Springsteen.

    by Johnnythebandit on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 01:11:01 PM PST

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    •  The police state has never had the means of (31+ / 0-)

      24/7 invasive, intrusive surveillance that they have now, the ability to decisively shut down communications, and perhaps most importantly, a well armed, angry, frightened and misinformed public who will support the puppetmasters.

      Those cops bashing heads? They are part of that angry public. They are also part of the 99% -- they should know that they are protecting the people who are robbing their lives. But they don't, and they won't, understand that.

      Yes, we have social media and blogs. And text messaging. But the entire edifice of instant communication depends on two very vulnerable choke points: the internet, and the cell phone networks. If China has shown us anything, it's how easy it is to throttle communications. The ISPs have now dwindled in number to a few very large maga corps and scattered mom and pop operations that are still hanging on, and there are now just  four telecoms that control the entire cell phone network -- and the two largest of those are totally right wing.

      We are in a race to win the hearts and minds of the American public, a public which is poorly educated, actively misinformed, largely ignorant, pumped full of fear, and easily manipulated to misdirect their anger and frustration by appeals to nationalism, racism, and religion.

      We can never, ever be complacent. We can never assume. We have to work harder, be smarter, better organized, and better informed. "Move your money" showed that the oligarchs indeed are vulnerable. We have to active counter every column that dismisses us as whiners.

      We should NEVER assume that what we are witnessing now in the form of a police state is simply more of the same. I'm 61 years old, so I've been watching this for a very long time. I can tell you with no hesitation that what we are facing now is far more frightening than anything I've seen in my lifetime -- not just the militarized police, but a public that so dangerously misinformed, politicians at every level that have been so bought, and a system that is so rigged for the plutocrats. We have been witnessing the greatest theft -- the greatest transfer of wealth and power -- in the history of mankind unfolding before our eyes. We should never underestimate what the plutocrats will do to ensure that the tiger that have grabbed by the tail remains under their command.

      "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

      by flitedocnm on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 02:20:11 PM PST

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      •  "...far more frightening than anything..." (17+ / 0-)

        Yep.

        ...24/7 invasive, intrusive surveillance that they have now...

        The internet is a tool far more capable for surveillance and control than anything Orwell imagined.

        Everyone thought that the internet meant freedom and anonymity. It did. For a while. There was just a lag time from its inception and development, the masses implementing it, and then the powers seeking ways to finagle it for control. We're just getting to that point now.

        The thing about the Evil that infects the powerful and wealthy is that it is pathologically desperate for absolute control. That's the source of believability in those movies where a protagonist shows up on the radar with ESP, or some super intellect, and immediately the black vans appear outside and snag them and whisk them off to some undisclosed location so the feds can figure out how to exploit those abilities, or kill the talented to keep them from using their powers for the greater good. Hence, Wolverine.

        Power and Greed manifest profound Fear, in the Powerful, and Greedy.

        Everyone else, who just wants to live their lives in peace, are the victims of that voracious Fear.

        And that's what the 99.9% are up against. It doesn't have to be organized. The .1% just have to all have the same agenda, and drives.

        I think we're on a knife edge, and this thing could tip either way. No one, not them, and not us, can guarantee an outcome with this much chaos brewing.

        Worst case? Their greed could collapse our civilization.

        I think that's happened before, if memory serves...

      •  I agree we're at a dangerous crossroads (7+ / 0-)

        I was just saying that there isn't some "simple time" for us to return to. The world has always been fucked up, authoritarian, and exploitative. What we have now is a choice between a system that is truly democratic and respects the rights of every individual, or a tyrannical technocratic nightmare.

        "Poor man wanna be rich, Rich man wanna be King, and the King ain't satisfied till he rules everything." Bruce Springsteen.

        by Johnnythebandit on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 04:34:34 PM PST

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      •  It's essential to understand that the Internet (3+ / 0-)
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        and the computerization on which it is based has to have played a central role in the catastrophic manipulation of what used to be called financial instruments. In large part because the minutely organized mechanized operation of that theft is beyond the power of individual understanding. And that the elites have been in control of electronic communication for many decades.

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