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  •  Didn't you see the :-P thingy? (2+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark, divineorder

    That's a little electronic raspberry for you. It's a joke, son, laugh.

    •  No, missed the emoticon (1+ / 0-)
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      OIL GUY

      My apologies. I'm getting old.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Thu Dec 01, 2011 at 02:07:12 PM PST

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    •  The "joke' is a bit long compared to (4+ / 0-)
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      blue aardvark, orson, caul, divineorder

      the little emoticon.

      ba, I think you did a great job. This whole thing is still under construction. I think idealistically we should try to elect better dems where ever possible and your rating source is a good means of identification.

      Realistically, your discussion of the party structure being focused on re-electing incumbents is important. The worst DINOS may be better than 99.9% of the GOP running against them, because they- and Obama- will be more possible to push leftward in voting.

      Our remarkable JekylnHyde weighed in a diary yesterday with these links.  They are really worthwhile.

      John Heilemann in New York 11/27 2012=1968? In 2008, Barack Obama lit a fire among young activists. Next year, Occupy Wall Street could consume him.

      Mattathias Schwartz in The New Yorker 11/28
      Pre-Occupied, The origins and future of Occupy Wall Street.

      25 minute Charlie Rose interview/discussion with both authors

      These are some of the best reports on the movement I have read and agree with them at least 95%.

      I think the idea that America was a country ready and waiting for the movement to begin and develop the narrative of what we the people are needing to tell is exactly right.

      Now* the issue is what is the narrative and will it be developed accurately and powerfully.  

      *read the articles and watch the video for all the discussion on how, what, who, where, when will be involved in the journey of getting to the narrative and beyond.

      The really, really important message is: this movement sparked and got further in 70 - 80 days than the anti war movement did in 3 years.

      They did not make the point that all of the locations have spent an inordinate amount of time on helping the homeless, ill, mentally ill, addicts, detractors, and just released prisoners.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 12:29:43 AM PST

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      •  The joke was one short line at the end. (0+ / 0-)

        The rest was serious. I thought the line itself would make the snark obvious, I mean I packed "child-like" "naive" and "idealism" into  a ten word sentence. That's not over the top enough? I guess I forget that this is the Internet and no matter how obviously silly something is, someone out there is writing the exact same thing in total seriousness right now.

        •  I am often surprised at how (0+ / 0-)

          writing is misinterpreted. One of my perspectives when I am trying to write something meant to be funny is whether the words convey enough or if it really needs the elements of non verbal communication that don't come through on a computer screen with no audio.  I also try to remember that we all get into reading fast and that cuts comprehension too.

          I was in the fast read and respond mode so I didn't proof the reply as much as usual. Normally I would have cut that sentence ... sorry.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 10:32:56 PM PST

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