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  •  yeah but ask them about their contract rates (16+ / 0-)

    I charge 300 bucks an hour for private work.  And I'm overbooked.  Plus a ton of IT people go into business for themselves.

    So while you will get a ton of support for socially liberal items among them, and even some social safety net items, it's still a "I work and win on my own" style of field full of highly competent people.  And they kinda like it that way.

    I identify as a social/civil libertarian economic liberal.

    My prior boss who was a syseng was a hardcore republican.... that supported gay marriage, abortion, and even healthcare reform.  He just fucking hated unions and taxes.  He also made 200k (not that high for the DC area) in base salary yet crushed that in consulting and the money he raked in on rent out in Columbia Maryland.

    He'd be a Democrat but "fucking unions and fucking taxes, I should make what I keep I do all the work, and assholes mooch off me" is VERY common in IT.  Because in a sense where we work, we do do most of the work that really counts, and get fuck all credit for it.

    Being in a similar (I don't make as much) situation, I do often wonder if I should try my hand and just quit my work and expand my consulting, which while it doesn't equal my work pay, still pulls down a nice 50k a year.

    I get where they are coming from about unions and all that, I do.  At the same time a pension would be nice and I don't need the extra cash I "might" get by going Galt.  I know this sounds crazy but I look at how I live, what I eat, where I hang out and I think "you know what, life is fucking good, everybody should live like this" and I'm not rich.  My old boss, ehhh he threw a fit when his 7 series BMW blew out and he got a 5 series for a rental, some people, just need to learn to live their life.

    Greed is the problem, and a ton of people in IT are in it to get rich fucking fast.  Me, I'm just happy working for an NGO in Global Health and having my toys, arcade machines in my apartment (electric bill fucks me on this), a quality seafood dinner once a week, great steak dinner once a month, and nice bike rides on the Potomac.  I can't ask for more than that.

    "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

    by overclocking on Sun Dec 11, 2011 at 09:16:35 PM PST

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    •  $300 an hour? (1+ / 0-)
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      I never got even half that! Here in Europe, rates are lower, apparently.

      Worse, companies would rather pay millions for new software that requires major changes in operations (i.e., users have to learn a whole new way of working). I lost my last contract as a freelancer 8 months ago under these circumstances. The new software has cause major problems for the company, but they don't want to lose face by admitting that they screwed up. The custom-made software I wrote that was supposed to be replaced is still running, strangely enough.

      FOSI: Full Of Shit Information - Both my sister and I are trivia freaks...

      by Spoc42 on Mon Dec 12, 2011 at 07:31:46 AM PST

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      •  security security security (0+ / 0-)

        that's where the money is, we make a ton more than anybody else in the IT industry.  Granted it's the hardest thing to break into, and the most expensive cert wise, but it's where the money is.  And since nobody invests in properly paying someone to do it on their own (too expensive to hire someone full time) when the shit hits the fan they all come screaming for help now that all their data is compromised and someone has their customers information.  

        you can pretty much name your price.

        "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

        by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 07:24:51 PM PST

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