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    it is clear from the recruiting and from what you yourself have said the D-trip is not behind you. what is you plan to win without their support?

    •  Not sure what you mean (1+ / 0-)
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      Neither the DCCC nor the Democratic Party is taking sides during the primary. They will provide Sue with exactly the same training and resources that they would to any viable other candidate.

      There are many big names in the local party who support Sue. There are also clearly some who want to see a conservative or blue dog as the candidate. (Oliverio's withdrawal shows which group has more real influence and power.) It is easy to spread rumors and people love to gossip about a horse race.

      The same thing happened in Massachusetts to Elizabeth Warren- there was a backlash among some of the professional political class who didn't want to see an outsider as the nominee. Sue's solution is the same as Elizabeth's: to show that she has the support to beat anyone who runs against her.

      After the primary, the DCCC will support Sue enthusiastically. This is a seat that can be flipped, and Sue is a mainstream Democrat. She is not the Democratic equivalent of some crazy Tea Partier who wants to destroy the country to save it.

      •  That does not appear to be the case with the DCCC (0+ / 0-)

        They are actively recruiting a candidate in Tim Manchin even after meeting with Ms. Thorn. I also don't no what you are talking about with the Warren backlash. She was recruited by the professional political class/ DSCC.

        It also appears as though Sue is not a mainstream West Virginia Democrat. Her support for OFA, MoveOn, Daily Kos, and other liberal activist groups are not representative of mainstream WV Democrats.  

        •  OFA (0+ / 0-)

          Not sure if you know this but OFA is an arm of the DCCC now. There may be "operatives" recruiting other candidates, but the Party (both Nationally and statewide) has to remain neutral. There is no more of a main stream Democrat than Sue. Many who are recruiting are Blue Dogs, or worse. Definitely purple, not blue! Sue supports any group that can get out a message to the people who have been down-trodden, or treaded upon more accurately. She appeals to all demographics. Apparently you are a supporter of liberal activist groups also, hence your post on Daily Kos?

          •  correction (0+ / 0-)

            arm of DNC, not DCCC.

            •  I follow elections and was sent her (0+ / 0-)

              by the sub-site DK elections. I also live and work in WV-1. Furthermore there is no rule that the DCCC has to stay neutral in a race. They often endorse and make sure there candidate makes it through the primary. My biggest qualm with OFA is the perception of the general voter in WV-1. They will not and do not support Obama. That is a major issue in the race.

              •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

                Agree about whether or not WV voters in general support the President.

              •  Obama is not the issue (0+ / 0-)

                Sue is a Democrat, she is running for Congress. Obama won because he mobilized Democrats, and now he is our Democratic president.

                Using Obama to attack Sue is all wrong. We want what the Democrats promised, that our national Democrats have not delivered.

                Go Sue!!

                •  I suspect you misunderstand (0+ / 0-)

                  I know buff2011, and am certain that he wishes Sue all the success in the world.

                  He's just referring to the difficulties that recent D Presidential candidates have faced in WV-01, i.e. from Wikipedia,

                  While the district and state as a whole has been very Democratic, West Virginia Democrats tend to be somewhat more socially conservative than their counterparts in the rest of the nation. No Democrat since Bill Clinton (who did so by a plurality in a three way race) has carried the 1st District in presidential elections. George W. Bush carried the district both times in 2000 with 54% of the vote and 2004 with 58% of the vote. John McCain carried the district in 2008 with 56.77% of the vote while Barack Obama received 41.51%.

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                  by tietack on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 05:45:23 AM PST

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      •  This response from Sue suggests the DCCC is not (0+ / 0-)

        behind you -- further suggesting that since "West Virginians are the ones who encouraged and drafted me to run," that perhaps you're running against the "DC insiders" at the DCCC, ref

        What I've noticed is that it sounds like DC insiders have decided they know what's best for West Virginians "the DCCC is lining up members to call Manchin over the next week to provide encouragement and pledge fundraising assistance."

        I'm glad to say West Virginians are the ones who encouraged and drafted me to run.

        "I hope; therefore, I can live."
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        by tietack on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 07:24:50 PM PST

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