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  •  I dislike the way this discussion has gone (2+ / 0-)
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    Sun dog, Betty Pinson

    because if a group of Obama supporters took a bus to an event in another state, we would react positively.

    The framing here:
    "bussed in" vs. supporters taking a bus to a rally

    How is this so different from any other group that might want to support a candidate, whether it be a labor union, or a book club, the Sierra Club, or the NRA?  As long as they're not using money obtained through tax-exempt channels, and not using campaign funds to support a church-based trip, it's not that different from any other group or club taking a bus to an exciting political event.

    If we swapped "Obama" for "Romney" and the group was college democrats or Kossacks or any other liberal group, would we mock a bus trip to a rally this way?  There are so many better reasons to criticize Romney.

    A Wall Street "bonus" should not be more than what my house is worth.

    by bushondrugs on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 11:33:34 AM PST

    •  What gets me is the murkiness of who's paying (1+ / 0-)
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      The students are evidently not paying, since they thought the campaign was paying.  But the campaign says it's NOT paying.  Well SOMEBODY is sure paying, and I'd like to know who it is, and whether it's a tax exempt organization (whether the church, the college, or some other organization).

      It's not at all like Obama supporters taking a bus somewhere to campaign.  I campaigned for Obama in Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania and my home state of Maryland in the primaries/caucuses, and in Virginia leading up to the general election.  I also campaigned for Kerry in Florida in 2004.  And I paid all of my own expenses each time.

      PROUD to be a Democrat!

      by leevank on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 11:40:43 AM PST

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      bushondrugs

      It's worth noting if this is a sign of a lack of support within South Carolina.  But, pretty much, people are taking meaningless cheap shots in regards to 'bussing in' supporters.  It's a legitimate part of campaigning to move volunteers around to where they can have an impact.  I don't see signs of wrongdoing here.  The main premise of the diary that it's a sign of Romney's weakness in SC is about as far as this goes, in my book.  

      When the truth is only a matter of opinion, advantage goes to the liars.

      by Sun dog on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 11:41:52 AM PST

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    •  People expect support from political allies. (1+ / 0-)
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      on the cusp

      Religious allies is a little weird.

      Not even sure the Southern Baptists send their flocks to other parts of the country to fill out the crowds.

      If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

      by Bush Bites on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46:48 AM PST

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    •  It would be expensive for Obama (0+ / 0-)

      How much would it cost for Obama to bus in all the Protestants in America at his campaign stops? Food for thought.

    •  I think there's a big difference... (4+ / 0-)
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      bear83, here4tehbeer, Aquarius40, Kinak

      We might bus in volunteers to help with door-knocking, GOTV, calling, etc. In other words, our volunteers would actually be doing something useful, measurable, and important.

      But to bus people in, from places that aren't even close, to make the crowds for your speeches look bigger?

      It doesn't matter if they're Mormons, evangelicals, Kossacks. The point is that the candidate would be trying to create the impression of something that isn't true: that he has excited, organic support.

      That's completely phony. Kind of like the candidate himself.

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