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  •  McConnell is only able to shut down the Senate (10+ / 0-)

    because the Democrats chose to let him do so when they didn't get rid of the filibuster.  They act like they're content to thwart actually getting stuff done.  Sure they blame the Republicans, but they've got the majority if they ever wanted to use it.  Since they don't, and they continue to let everything require 60 votes to pass, it's more than just McConnell who's preventing action.

    •  Well, to be scrupulously fair, (7+ / 0-)

      I remember us very much liking the filibuster when it was being used to oppose Republican initiatives during the Bush administration.

      But the constant need for a filibuster-proof majority has been one of the most often-cited reasons around here for why certain bills don't get through, or why certain legislation isn't tried.

      I go back and forth on this. Obviously, it would have been desirable for Dems, back in 2008-2010, to actually be able to take advantage of the legitimate majorities that they enjoyed in both branches of Congress, alongside the presidency.

      Indeed, I sometimes think about the system in Canada (where I'm from), where a majority in the House of Commons is a mandate to push through whatever legislation the PM and his Cabinet want to push through. Obviously, right now, that reality is terrifying: Stephen Harper's control of Parliament gives one a massive sinking feeling, particularly since it's not going away anytime soon. But in progressives' hands? We'd be singing a different tune.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 04:19:09 PM PST

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      •  While you're being scrupulously fair, (10+ / 0-)

        you might look into the number of filibusters the Democrats used during the Bush Administration.  I think you'll be surprised at how few there were in comparison to the Repuke's use of same.

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        by HappyinNM on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 06:08:27 PM PST

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        •  I'm talking about how fervently (1+ / 0-)
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          Kossacks were defending the institution of the filibuster against the threat of the so-called "nuclear option." When Bill Frist was Senate Majority leader, Kossacks were adamant about the proud tradition of the filibuster as a check against the tyranny of the majority. Now, not so much.

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 06:08:06 AM PST

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          •  The filibuster was reserved for the worst (1+ / 0-)
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            cases.  It wasn't used to block almost every bill and every appointment which is how the Republicans are using it.  The Democrats were never that willing to obstruct the Republican agenda - otherwise we'd have never had the Bush Tax Cuts, though I figure the war would have still gone through because of the lies told to support it.

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