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    Certainly, the CO2 emissions continue to be too high, but are still about 50% less per capita than the US figures. There's a lot of work yet to be done, but Germany is well on track to becoming the first wholly green-energy-based industrialized country by 2050. That gives the pro-nuclear contingent the vapors.

    Why the hell would you think that?

    First of all, Germany's per capita emissions are not "50% less" than the US. The number is actually about 46%. But more importantly, what the does that have to with nuclear power?! The statistics I cite above are for 2009, the last year for which the IEA has published statistics on the web. At that time, Germany was more nuclear than the US, generating 23% of its electricity from nuclear, whereas the US managed less than 20%.

    Why didn't you compare Germany's per capita emissions to a real nuclear country, like its neighbor France, which generated three-quarters of its electricity from nuclear that year? That might have been a comparison that could have given "the pro-nuclear contingent the vapors" ... except that nuclear-heavy France's per capita emissions are 40% less than Germany's.

    Keep dreaming, bub. Frankly, I have no confidence in any plan that begins with "we hope."

    Crowing about "emissions down by 25 percent over 1990 levels" is more pathetic than impressive. For most of 1990, Germany was still two countries, one of which was run by a communist government that had an absolutely abysmal environmental record, with many old, inefficient plants burning coal. Those plants were shut down shortly after reunification, which makes up a substantial part of that 25% that the Federal Ministry for Environment, Nature Conservation and Nuclear Safety is so proud of.

    I'll wait to be impressed when Germany's emissions are comparable to France's. France has a higher electricity consumption per capita, but its emissions per GDP are 36% lower than Germany's.

    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
    -- Albert Einstein

    by bryfry on Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 12:03:43 PM PST

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      Daily Kos, there are perhaps 5 (or less) who give a fig about what you think. As you know, I'm not among those elite few, and I'm sure you don't give a fig about me, either, which is a compliment in my book. I doubt you are even a Democrat, or even remotely interested in progressive politics, but only here to stir things up on the pro-nuke/anti-nuke threads.

      I resolved to ignore you a while ago, but am making this one comment as an exception so you don't have to waste time in countering anything I say again, because I will disregard you (again) henceforth. But if you are into masochism, go ahead and waste your time here as much as you want. In case you hadn't noticed, you and your pals are becoming increasingly irrelevant and marginalized, and not in a small way because of your arrogance and rude behavior. You just are too full of yourself to notice.

      Go ahead and keep tilting at the windmills and trying to tear them down. You can't win this one. Nuclear energy was yesterday, renewables are the future, and nothing you say will change that.

      „Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren.“ - Bertolt Brecht

      by translatorpro on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 06:35:08 AM PST

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      •  Cute (0+ / 0-)

        And you thought that I was writing that comment for you.

        I think that it's funny that you should write, "That gives the pro-nuclear contingent the vapors," and not expect a response, or at least a correction of your misinformation and bogus comparisons. It is not surprising (and rather telling) that, instead of addressing any of the content of my comment, you immediately launched into a personal attack against me.

        If I thought that you were going to be the only person to read the response, I doubt that I would bother. After all, as a self-proclaimed expert on everything German, your arrogance and close-mindedness are legendary. However, somebody else might be interested in a little more perspective, and although this is perhaps a long-dead diary, comments stick around, and I can refer to this information in the future without having to type out all of the details again.

        If you want to take your toys and go home, that's your choice to make, but with an attitude like that, perhaps you shouldn't hang out in the playground too much.

        In the future, however, please don't think that I'm writing anything for your sake, and please don't assume that I give a damn about what you think. Thanks.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
        -- Albert Einstein

        by bryfry on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 11:02:05 AM PST

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