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  •  I am not sure I understand your case... (1+ / 0-)
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    However, the Federal law makes no mandate that employers cover insurance.
    That is ACA itself?  There is a mandate for employers with over 50 employees.  So with the new law, the Georgia loophole wouldn't apply.

    Can you clarify?

    "But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower." - President Obama, 12-07-2010

    by justmy2 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 08:14:44 AM PST

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    •  There's no mandate (4+ / 0-)

      Large employers don't have to cover health care, though if they choose not to they would pay a $2,000 fee per employee (excluding the first 30) to help offset the cost of the government subsidizing care for employees who would be forced into the individual market.  

      So technically, if a Catholic Hospital in Georgia doesn't want to cover birth control for their employees, there is absolutely nothing in the new rule that can require them to do so - basically the same as Georgia.

      This is from the White House, so feel free to take with a grain of salt

      The Affordable Care Act does not include an employer
      mandate. In 2014, as a matter of fairness, the Affordable
      Care Act requires large employers to pay a shared
      responsibility fee only if they don’t provide affordable
      coverage and taxpayers are supporting the cost of health
      insurance for their workers through premium tax credits
      for middle to low income families.

      • The law specifically exempts all firms that have fewer
      than 50 employees – 96 percent of all firms in the United
      States or 5.8 million out of 6 million total firms – from
      any employer responsibility requirements. These 5.8
      million firms employ nearly 34 million workers. More
      than 96 percent of firms with 50 or more employees
      already offer health insurance to their workers. Less
      than 0.2 percent of all firms (about 10,000 out of 6
      million) may face employer responsibility requirements.
      Many firms that do not currently offer coverage will be
      more likely to do so because of lower premiums and
      wider choices in the Exchange.
      > For more information, please visit:
      www.healthreform.gov/about/answers.html.

      "Journalistic conventions make it hard for reporters to deal with a big, complicated lie." -- Michael Kinsley.

      by dcg2 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 08:26:09 AM PST

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      •  that was always the case...it was part of the (1+ / 0-)
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        complaint...they were concerned about the fines...that still constitutes a mandate....it is just the penalty for not following it...

        as the rule was written, this was still the case...whereas in GA, if the company chose not to provide prescription drugs, they would not be fined.

        that is the difference....

        "But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower." - President Obama, 12-07-2010

        by justmy2 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 08:47:01 AM PST

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        •  You are grasping here. (0+ / 0-)

          Under the federal law, like the Georgia law, they do not have to cover birth control if they don't want.  All they have to do is drop their insurance coverage.  

          Now if their problem is that they want to be able to drop health coverage without having to contribute one nickel to solve our national health care crisis -- then that's what they should be complaining about.

          This is a false issue, and the Georgia example proves it -- because neither the Georgia law or the Federal law one forces them to provide coverage.

          "Journalistic conventions make it hard for reporters to deal with a big, complicated lie." -- Michael Kinsley.

          by dcg2 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 01:14:29 PM PST

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          •  if you are arguing about the word mandate (0+ / 0-)

            feel free, but I didn't realize that was your intent.

            All I know is that at the federal level, you will be fined if you provide no coverage AND that coverage MUST provide prescription drugs coverage including contraception.  

            In Georgia,  you will be fined if you provide no coverage AND that coverage AND CAN CHOOSE to provide prescription drugs thus not providing contraception.

            That is a very specific difference that O'Donnell was correct to point out.

            "But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower." - President Obama, 12-07-2010

            by justmy2 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 at 01:30:50 PM PST

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