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  •  There are some unique things about the US. (3+ / 0-)
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    jamess, ExStr8, Radical def

    We sure share one thing with the Republic of Ireland: we successfully drove the British out by force of arms. Though it took a long time, don't forget the War of 1912 when it comes to the US. Not a lot of former British holdings can claim that, if any of any significance.

    Our Constitution was pretty innovative, flawed as it was and still may be.

    But there are some other ways in which the US is exceptional. For instance, Puritans, fleeing religious persecution, eventually ended up here so that they could set up their own religiously intolerant State. We continued to engage in slavery until nearly every other American country, North or South had outlawed it (Mexico's outlawing of slavery sparked the Texas Revolution; Brazil was the last country in the Americas to officially ban slavery, in 1888, IIRC).

    We are unique among industrialized nations in that we lack universal health care.

    There are many things which are "exceptional" about the US--some good, and others really, really bad news.

    Frankly, what I find less-than-exceptional and more like many other countries is that we have had a Civil War and that we continue to allow the heirs of the Confederacy to dominate our political dialogue. No offense to my Southern friends, but there is a reason why vanquishing the enemy has great advantages to the victor. We have failed to do that, and continue to fail to do that. Southern politicians have dominated the dialogue since Reconstruction, at some times more, at some times less, but have hampered the Union's ability to enforce the ideals for which we fought. I know this is a controversial statement.

    We have got to get out of our post-WWII and Cold War mentality and start rebuilding what is important in our nation: the living standards and opportunities for our people. If we could do that, it would make us TRULY exceptional.

    I agree: this "American Exceptionalism" stuff is utter bogus crap.

    Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car.

    by commonmass on Sat Feb 11, 2012 at 02:07:51 PM PST

    •  BS or not (3+ / 0-)
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      commonmass, ExStr8, Radical def

      the GOP hopeful are hitching their cart

      to that 19th and 20th century wagon.

      Dems need an appropriate, and disarming reply

      to match their rallying cries.

      thx commonmass, for the comments.

      What is necessary to change a person is to change his awareness of himself.
      -- Maslow ...... my list.

      by jamess on Sat Feb 11, 2012 at 02:12:55 PM PST

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      •  jamess - you are right (3+ / 0-)
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        jamess, Radical def, commonmass

        This is the primary GOP theme and it is intoxicating to most Americans, the overwhelming majority of whom aren't political junkies like us. As you say what is needed is an "appropriate" disarming reply. I think that takes some real talent. Just throwing cold water at it by stating that the US isn't or has never been, exceptional, isn't a politically viable strategy.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Sat Feb 11, 2012 at 03:00:30 PM PST

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    •  Though I agree with the first part of your post. . (0+ / 0-)

      . . . the statement

      "Southern politicians have dominated the dialogue[political] since Reconstruction. . ."

      is just not true. I know that since the start of the culture wars it can feel that way, but remember that after Andrew Johnson (Lincoln's vice president) there was not a US president from the South until Lyndon Johnson (Also Kennedy's VP). A southerner was not elected president on their own until Jimmy Carter in 1977.  That's 100 years of exclusion from the White House. That is not political domination.

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