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  •  Key issue. College grads, who can make more (33+ / 0-)

    money slinging hash than pursuing their life dreams, and thanks to the ridiculous amounts of college loans they need to pay off, are becoming servants rather than thinkers.  This economy is hurting the twenty-somethings more than most other groups and when they are offered a decent job it now comes without 40 hours, without benefits, and without a pension.  These are our children and grandchildren!  And BTW, without them in the work force, earning a decent wage, guess what happens to their parents' and grandparents' social security?  The TP/GOP's got nothin'.  Nothin' except fear and loathing and divisiveness.  

    Got Social Security? Thank a Democrat!

    by Fury on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 10:08:15 AM PST

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    •  Do they friggin' VOTE? (9+ / 0-)

      Groups with below-average voter turnout:
      * The young.
      * The poor.
      * The non-white.
      * Those eligible for citizenship who have not actually become citizens (0% turnout, obviously, except in GOP-imagined "voter fraud" fantasies).

      The same groups are disproportionately represented among Florida waitstaff, I'll bet.

      Florida 2010 governor election results: Scott 2.62 million, Sink 2.56 million.

      Population of Florida: 19 million. If just a small % of the 14 million non-voters had turned out for Sink, things would be different.

      You get what you vote for...or fail to vote against.

      "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

      by HeyMikey on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 11:22:13 AM PST

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      •  Also cannot vote: people fraudulently removed (19+ / 0-)

        from voter rolls.  Disproportionately people of color.

        It's also a lot harder for low-wage workers to take off to go to the polls.  MoJo's latest print version had an expose of warehouses for online shipping -- the manager agreed the reporter should vote, but also agreed they could be fired if they took off to vote.

        Even aside that, people working long shifts for hourly wages find it a lot harder to go stand in line to vote, both practically, and in terms of doing without those earnings.

      •  You can't vote your way to economic justice. (7+ / 0-)

        Don't try to blame the victims here.  It's gross.

        The politics of direct action is based, to a certain degree, on a faith that freedom is contagious. - David Graeber

        by An Affirming Flame on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 02:21:19 PM PST

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        •  Bullshit. (4+ / 0-)
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          14 million non-voters in Florida. If a third of them are too young to vote--probably a gross overestimate, given Florida's demographics--that still leaves 9+ million adult non-voters.

          Sink got 2.56 million votes. That means about 4 times as many adult Floridians stayed home as voted for Sink.

          Scott's margin of victory was less than 62,000 votes. 62,000 is about 0.6% of 9 million. Not 6%; 6/10 of one percent.

          Yes, I know Florida disgustingly leads the nation in the disgusting GOP practice of suppressing the votes of the poor, the elderly, and people of color. But even at its worst, that only affects the margin of elections by maybe a percent or two. If only a tiny % of the non-voters voted Democratic, it would vastly overwhelm the vote-suppression effect...and put progressives into office who would end vote suppression.

          Call me naive, but I see hope in this. With just a very modestly successful effort to register the poor and get them to the polls, we could tip the balance.

          "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

          by HeyMikey on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 03:54:53 PM PST

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          •  Is there a union for servers/waitstaff? (1+ / 0-)
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            .....that could lead the drive to not only register union members and voters but that offers a chance to join a group medical plan?  Seems like there's a big need that's not being met.

            I agree with you HeyMikey, if and when the poor start voting in large enough numbers the ReThugs stolen vote percentages won't matter.

            From my experience only about 15-25% of restaurant staff vote. Gotta get those numbers up for sure.

            •  There is the Restaurant Opportunities Center (1+ / 0-)
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              or ROC

              They don't have a presence everywhere, but they're expanding.  They've come to my city (DC) within the past couple of years and have been doing great work so far.

              They're not a traditional union, but a worker's center.  Definitely worth checking out the website to learn more if you are a worker in the restaurant industry.

              The politics of direct action is based, to a certain degree, on a faith that freedom is contagious. - David Graeber

              by An Affirming Flame on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 09:18:00 AM PST

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          •  So? Go ahead and spend enormous resources (0+ / 0-)

            (time and money) and someday you might elect a ton of Democrats...who will still support owners over workers.  It's a waste of time and lots of people realize that, hence so many non-voters.

            The way to build workers' power and to beat back the depredations of the owners is to build our power.  Organize and fight back where it counts (in our workplaces and communities) and leave the polls for the pols.

            The politics of direct action is based, to a certain degree, on a faith that freedom is contagious. - David Graeber

            by An Affirming Flame on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 09:00:51 AM PST

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            •  Chicken & egg. We need our own Tea Party. (0+ / 0-)

              The Democrats now in office respond more to the middle-class office types than to waitstaff, janitors, etc., because it's the middle-class office types who turned out & voted them into office.

              Progressives are there, in the primaries, but they don't win the primaries. E.g., in Arkansas, in the Blanche Lincoln (Blue Dog) vs. Bill Halter (progressive) primary runoff, less than 5% of adult Arkansans bothered to turn out & vote for Halter.

              Change who votes > change who wins (or change what the winners do to save their own asses) > change policy.

              Ironically, the Tea Party is showing us the way on this. They're a small minority of Americans, and probably even a minority of Republicans, but no Republican candidate dares cross them. We need a progressive Democratic version of the Tea Party.

              "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

              by HeyMikey on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 09:45:32 AM PST

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