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  •  This is a very profound diary. (5+ / 0-)

    Centrism has all but disappeared in politics. People believe that to be heard, you have to be extreme. But life is all about compromises. Very few us live in the our ideal house - we have to compromise on its size, location. cost and constitution. Few of us drive our ideal car - we have to compromise on its capacity, cost and features.

    So why has politics degenerated into extremism, with neither side listening to the other? Yes - the social safety net is in shambles and yes, we as a country spend too much money and the correct answer to fix both is to compromise.

    I fully agree with the point of your diary - demonizing the opposition destroys any option to compromise and sets one up for a shock when one actually come face to face with the "demon" because they actually turn out to be quite nice people.

    •  Point to one extreme politician on the left. (0+ / 0-)

      There are none, they are the ones doing all the compromising.

      That is why there is a very well liked diary on a democratic site that is touting republican policies from two decades ago.

      Obama's October secret is that he would be a conservative in the Reagan days, and the crowd cheers.

      Man do we need some extremists on the left right now.

      "... the Professional Left, that is simultaneously totally irrelevant and ruining everything" (Glenn Greenwald)

      by ranger995 on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 04:37:35 PM PST

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      •  Fair point.... (2+ / 0-)
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        The goal posts have shifted to right field in the last 30 years.

        •  Not all of them have. (0+ / 0-)

          I think a lot of social positions have actually shifted to the left. I don't believe this is the result of politicians though, more like people fighting for their rights.

          In Economics and Foreign Policy, we have drifted very far to the right, and I think that is because the Democrats keep accepting Republican talking points so that they can do what the diarist here is saying. Meanwhile, the Republicans keep tacking more and more to the right.

          "... the Professional Left, that is simultaneously totally irrelevant and ruining everything" (Glenn Greenwald)

          by ranger995 on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 04:48:26 PM PST

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          •  They don't 'keep accepting talking points.' (0+ / 0-)

            They keep accepting cash.

            The main players in both parties are bought and paid for.

            There will be no economic democracy until this changes.

            Obama's only real appeal to progressives is that he's sort-of center-right, which is better than being a bobble-headed freakazoid right-wing nutjob.

            But that doesn't mean he's going to give most voters anything more than crumbs from the corporate table.

            The corps are perfectly happy with Obama. His token noises about wealth redistribution will disappear after he's re-elected.

            But really, if anyone wants economic democracy - secure well-paid work, employee co-ops, epic tax breaks for productive small businesses such as green energy outfits, significant New Deal-style stimulus spending - they're not going to get any of that from the mainstream Democrats.

            "Be kind" - is that a religion?

            by ThatBritGuy on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 04:39:04 AM PST

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    •  there's no comparison (0+ / 0-)

      the right has 1000 coordinated radio stations driving everything right the last 20 years, deciding what is and what isn't acceptable, and because the left ignores it the left is forced to compromise with rabid twits to get anything done.  the left analyzes in a talk radio vacuum and believes the MSM's take, as if the teabaggers are a legitimate 'popular' uprising instead of a bunch of dittoheads lured out of the limbaugh closet with free bus passes.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and partisan lying by broadcasting sports on Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 06:18:00 PM PST

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