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  •  I don't think the framing matters a damn (0+ / 0-)

    It's an emotionally charged issues. Calling people Pro-abortion or anti-choice, depending upon your view isn't goign to change many mings.

    •  It's not "Framing" (0+ / 0-)

      Framing is the manipulation of language to generate psychological reaction/response.  It is about how we THINK about the question of reproductive rights.

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      by shanikka on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 06:53:40 AM PST

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      •  So how should we think about the issue? (1+ / 0-)
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        Dave in Northridge

        Simply telling me to go read somebody's work isn't helping here.  

        Framing the way Frank Luntz does it is manipulation because it is based in dishonesty and obfuscation.  But framing isn't always inherently manipulative - words are powerful things.

        •  Oh yes it is (1+ / 0-)
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          darlalalala

          You are ascribing a value judgment to the word "manipulation", i.e. it's manipulative when our political enemy purposefully chooses language because of its psychological impact, but not when our side does it.

          I'm not willing to play games like that.  Framing is what it is, and it is manipulative, no matter the worth of the cause for which it is being utilized.  I don't think that any of the proponents of the theory of framing would say differently.

          BTW I referred you to the work of others because they cannot be reduced to a soundbite.  A person who really wants to understand why in the hell 4 decades after Roe and 4 1/2 decades after Griswold we are still having the fight we are having will take the time.

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          by shanikka on Fri Feb 24, 2012 at 08:18:35 AM PST

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