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  •  Why doesn't the doctor (6+ / 0-)
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    explain how the statement is wrong right after she is forced to read it?

    Read the statement and then read an additional text that explains the actual facts.

    Then talk to the woman about any questions she has about the actual medical facts involved.

    Or does the law require that she stew with all this misinformation for 24 hours? In addition to being otherwise abused.

    •  Some guesswork (5+ / 0-)
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      The doctor, nurse and counselor all apologized, explained that they were obliged to say and do as the law required. From reading about it, I find it clear that they did not think these obligations were right or true. Apologies speak to its wrongness.

      I'd like to think that any lack of righteous indignation might have just been suppressed in favor of taking care of their patient.

      "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that." -- Bill O'Reilly

      by tytalus on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:54:20 PM PDT

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      •  That's the kind (3+ / 0-)
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        I am thinking of the less dramatic instance of a woman just wanting an abortion, not because of the heartbreaking circumstances in this piece but because she wants one. This woman's mind was not going to be changed. But the 18-year-old sent home with a head full of nonsense might well change her mind when the sensible thing is for her to have an abortion.

        Who is actually in the room policing that this whole disgusting charade takes place? What if the doctor doesn't go through the whole stupid script?

        •  Again, I'd have to guess (3+ / 0-)
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          The article mentions inspections, not abortion police - although it could be argued that they are the same thing. I doubt the state has enough resources to have people in the room policing each appointment, but they can inspect and investigate and probe for any weak links, and anti-choice organizations certainly harass as much as possible.

          My guess is that they're counting on the health care workers being too scared to potentially bring down a clinic, since there are so few of them.

          "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that." -- Bill O'Reilly

          by tytalus on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:32:37 PM PDT

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        •  The doctor must be present (8+ / 0-)

          in order to recite the information. Additionally, there can be a certified sonographer if the doctor isn't doing the sonogram, and if the doctor is male, there will be a female nurse, MA or patient advocate in the room as well.

          The proof of compliance is a state-issued form completed by the patient after the ultrasound, which she initials and signs in order to certify that the physician has complied with all portions of the law.

          If the well-funded and well-organized anti-choice powerhouses here in Texas haven't already begun sending pregnant operatives into clinics to conduct sting operations against doctors, they will. That would be an extremely cost-effective way to close clinics, and that's what this law is really meant to do.  

          So even as awful as all of this is, a physician would have to be incredibly foolhardy to skip any of it.

          "Texas is going to shrink government until it fits into a woman's uterus." -- Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte

          by moiv on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:51:42 PM PDT

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    •  If I were the doctor I'd whisper (0+ / 0-)

      While the radio was turned up.  That way my patient wouldn't hear me but I'd still be satisfying the letter of the law.

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