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View Diary: Breaking: "First Degree Homicide Of The Unborn Child Bill" Passes CO House On Second Reading (202 comments)

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  •  I've been hammering away at this for years! (12+ / 0-)

    If something is criminalized, there is perforce a penalty.  Why do the pro-criminalization folks always seem to get a pass on declaring what penalty fits their "crime?"  Why aren't they questioned vigorously about this at every chance?  

    I think our journalists and our pro-choice Democrats have failed miserably in asking these obvious questions.  

    It's the Supreme Court, stupid!

    by Radiowalla on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 08:58:56 AM PDT

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    •  You don't need to ask in this case. (7+ / 0-)

      It's in the bill.  Look up the Colorado statutes that it's modifying and find the prescribed penalties.  

      •  Re: CO Bill HOUSE BILL 12-1130 as of 3/16/12: (3+ / 0-)
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        snip

        The bill creates a new article for offenses against pregnant women and their unborn children. The new offenses are unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the first degree, unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the second degree, unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the third degree, unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the fourth degree, vehicular
        unlawful termination of a pregnancy, and aggravated vehicular unlawful termination of a pregnancy. The bill excludes from prosecution medical

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        Amended 2nd Reading
        March 16, 2012
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        Joshi, Holbert, Acree, Baumgardner, Bradford, Brown, Murray

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        Bill Summary

        (Note: This summary applies to this bill as introduced and does not reflect any amendments that may be subsequently adopted. If this bill passes third reading in the house of introduction, a bill summary that applies to the re-engrossed version of this bill will be available at
        http://www.leg.state.co.us/....

        The bill creates a new article for offenses against pregnant women and their unborn children. The new offenses are unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the first degree, unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the second degree, unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the third degree, unlawful termination of a pregnancy in the fourth degree, vehicular unlawful termination of a pregnancy, and aggravated  vehicular unlawful termination of a pregnancy.

        The bill excludes from prosecution medical care for which the mother provided consent.

        The penalty for criminal abortion in which the woman does not die is increased from a class 4 felony to a class 3 felony.
        The bill makes conforming amendments.

        Jesus, I'm glad I'm  not a lawyer.
        •  I think Iowa has a similar law. Iowa's law (4+ / 0-)

          came about when a pregnant woman was attacked by her ex.  He was trying to murder her and the baby with her.  She survived by the fetus did not.  He was charged with attempted murder and ended up with a 'light' sentence.  The woman and her family were pissed that the guy wasn't charged with the murder of the unborn child.  She was pretty far along in the pregnancy, but that's not the issue.

          So, in the state of Iowa, if you are the direct cause of harm to a woman that is pregnant and that harm causes a termination of the pregnancy, you will be charged with the murder of said unborn infant.  This is aimed at ex's who don't want to pay child support and get someone, or themselves, attack the woman, or causes the pregnancy termination through an action of another crime (bank robbery, auto accident during the commission of another crime, etc).

        •  Wait a minute... (2+ / 0-)
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          ... because of R v W terminations are lawful.  So what is meant by "unlawful termination?

          Evolution IS Intelligent Design!

          by msirt on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 03:56:43 PM PDT

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    •  Think of all the witches you can get rid of. (0+ / 0-)

      or bitches.  Why bother to get a divorce when you can turn your wife in for murder and keep the household.

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