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  •  I know, but let's be clear (4+ / 0-)

    The dictionary is descriptive, not prescriptive.  It describes how terms are used, it does not tell us how they have to be used.  I know that it is common usage to talk about the rape of the earth, but I don't like it because it essentializes the environment as being a woman and as needing protection, when really we don't need to "protect" the environment, we just need to stop fucking it up.

    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 01:25:36 PM PDT

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    •  It also tells us, to some extent, how it is (4+ / 0-)
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      generally understood to be acceptable to use a term (nonwithstanding rapidly changing social norms).

      It may be that using 'rape of the earth' is no longer socially acceptable in the sense that it has traditionally been used.  I could believe that.

      Still, the fact that is passed by consensus with that phrase in it (when it could have been objected to and probably changed without too much ado) suggests that there is at least some doubt as to whether it being no longer socially acceptable is the norm.

    •  IMO, we must "protect" earth and its environment (1+ / 0-)
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      from those who would fuck it up. By that I mean taking a proactive part in stopping the distruction of our environment. It isn't enough for people to personally stop fucking it up when multinationals think they have a right and duty to keep on fucking it up.

      As for the term "raping the earth" I think it's very apropos. Not only humans can be raped.

      America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

      by cacamp on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 05:05:05 PM PDT

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      •  I definitely see where you're coming from (2+ / 0-)
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        in terms of protecting the environment from certain groups.  I was thinking more in terms of how we view the environment as a society.  We need to think of it not as something to have control over but as something to interact with on respectful terms.

        In regards to "raping the Earth" we'll just have to disagree.  I don't like seeing rape used as a metaphor any more than I like seeing lynching used as a metaphor.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 05:30:47 PM PDT

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        •  we will disagree (0+ / 0-)

          In my culture and beliefs we very much see the earth as a feminine being i.e. 'Mother' and 'Grandmother' Earth. Her protection has always been a priority and duty for our people. Thus "rape" to me is very apropo in both metaphor and reality.

          America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

          by cacamp on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 08:52:18 PM PDT

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        •  "Looting" works for me. n/t (0+ / 0-)

          "...just ordinary people, you know, people who are not famous, if they get together, if they persist, if they defy the authorities, they can defeat the largest corporation in the world. - Howard Zinn

          by Sean X on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 08:01:15 PM PDT

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