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  •  Here's a funny thing: (6+ / 0-)

    My daughters (one in 5th grade, one in 10th) attend the same school system that I did from 1st to 8th (I went to a private high school.) Exact same elementary school, exact same middle school. I went there in the 1970s.

    The amount of music they get is orders of magnitude greater than what I got. I got boring occasional classes where we all learned hokey folk tunes and that was about it. There was no elementary or middle school chorus. There were no musicals or other plays in elementary or middle. They have all of that. I just watched the younger one perform in her school's musical.

    This is not a wealthy district, either.

    "Maybe: it's a vicious little word that could slay me"--Sara Bareilles

    by ChurchofBruce on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 08:45:35 AM PDT

    •  Actually, I think art gets cut before music (6+ / 0-)

      or it somas times gets restored through parent funding. Parents LOVE those choir performances and school musicals.

      I'm glad for your kids. . .

      •  I think you're right. (8+ / 0-)

        It's much easier to nix something that is perceived as a very individual thing than one that is more of a group/team effort.  It's also hard/impossible to have a high school band for games without an elementary and middle school band program.  And we all know how "valuable" sports are, literally.  Somehow art is seen as something reserved for a few talented people, perhaps even "elitist" and therefore suspect.

        What is lost when the arts or phys ed or social studies are neglected in education is the formation of well-rounded people who are prepared to make a good life for themselves.  People with lots of varying interests are more fun to be around and also are able to find more ways to satisfy/occupy/entertain themselves.  Maybe that's why conservatives are so unhappy.  They are boring, even to themselves.  ;-)

        -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

        by luckylizard on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 10:29:57 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah, band was the one thing that was around (1+ / 0-)
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          in my day.

          My older daughter, although she doesn't play an instrument (well, not a band instrument--she plays guitar like Daddy :)), goes to the football games mainly to hang out with her friends in the band :D

          "Maybe: it's a vicious little word that could slay me"--Sara Bareilles

          by ChurchofBruce on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 11:24:30 PM PDT

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      •  They're pretty good about art (1+ / 0-)
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        although it's not as comprehensive as some of the music stuff, not in elementary/middle. It's there, though, and you get to walk by the artwork galleries on the way to the musical :)

        Our HS, OTOH, is fantastic. The number of art electives my daughter can take is astounding. She has taken everything from fashion design to pottery, and she's taking some sort of painting elective next year. There's lots of performing arts there, too, though some of it is after-school rather than a class. Drama, for instance.  She's even on the Poetry Slam team :D

        "Maybe: it's a vicious little word that could slay me"--Sara Bareilles

        by ChurchofBruce on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 11:22:21 PM PDT

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    •  I observe this too (1+ / 0-)
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      Educators are hanging on to music and art wherever they can. When we were kids, there was much less value placed on music and art education.

      Wealthy parents choose private schools explicitly because they have music programs.

      No question that great programs are being cut, and tragically. But that they ever existed to be cut was also progress.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 02:20:24 PM PDT

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