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  •  As a music educator, we teach this ALL. THE. TIME. (16+ / 0-)

    This is PART of the curriculum and has been for YEARS.

    This is NOT "new"

    And this is a pre-packaged curriculum set for NON-MUSIC teachers.

    In the Examiner article, it explicitly states

    No music teacher is needed to use the twelve lesson Academic Music study program. Curriculum materials for teachers are soon to be published by the authors.
    This is going to be MARKETED AND SOLD to schools.  And guess what?  They'll think they won't need a music teacher.

    Or COURSE it's corporate.  

    Most textbook writers are professors and such.  And they get a piece of the action, too.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 09:24:56 AM PDT

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    •  That word doesn't mean what you think it means (3+ / 0-)
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      Academics are, well, academics, not corporations.  And they are in the game to expand learning.  The notion that they're doing for royalties is laughable, really.

      And, again, if you have evidence that this has been done elsewhere, please post it.   Maybe you are right.  But I find that unlikely, especially in light of the other smears and misrepresentations i your diary.  Frankly, you should delete the damn thing and write an honest piece.

      For you to be calling anyone morons is kind of added irony

    •  yes, but you don't teach it in math class. (3+ / 0-)

      what you're missing is the crossover.

      Anyone who thinks that a 2-week unit on fractions via notes is a substitute for elementary music education is nuts.

      Yes, school board members are nuts--but that's a different story.

    •  That's a jump . (2+ / 0-)
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      And this is a pre-packaged curriculum set for NON-MUSIC teachers.
      If the school has no music teacher then the program allows non music teachers to do what you want / think is good for the kids .
      The program shows music teachers a way to do what is good . It allows music teachers to show they are more than just music teachers , they are teaching math and the students are benefiting not only in music class but also in math class . If the music program is cut , not only will the kids suffer from a lack of music , their math scores will suffer .  
      Or COURSE it's corporate.
      You are using "corporate" as a boogeyman . I see someone doing good work to get this into more classrooms for more kids to benefit from . I see NPR spotlighting someone doing good work , giving center stage to some one doing good for kids .

      I've been listening to a college kid tutor a grade school kid in math , they are doing fractions . It's torture to listen to , the college kid knows math but does not know how to teach the subject . The little kid is so unhappy because the tutor is not making it understandable . If the college kid had a known / proven program to teach from , step one , step two , step 3 etc etc etc , I'm sure he and the kid would do better .

      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 09:58:38 AM PDT

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    •  Susan Courey (0+ / 0-)

      http://coe.sfsu.edu/...

      Educational Background

      Susan Courey is an assistant professor in the mild/moderate disabilities program in the Department of Special Education. She received her Ph.D. (2006) from the Vanderbilt University in special education, high incidence disabilities, with an emphasis in mathematics for students with learning difficulties. She teaches graduate courses in mild/moderate disabilities, assessment and instruction, student teaching, and she is active in the joint doctoral program with UC Berkeley.

      Research Interests and Current Grant-Funded Projects

      Dr. Courey's research interests include teaching mathematics to students with learning differences and middle school mathematics. Currently Dr. Courey is working in collaboration with SRI and San Diego State University on a National Science Foundation funded project to advance the preparation of pre-service teachers in middle school mathematics.  This project is developing a web-based, dynamic textbook based on principles of Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and Technological, Pedagogical, and Content Knowledge. Dr. Courey is currently the principal investigator for a US Department of Education-funded project for program improvement. Federal funding has provided opportunity for SFSU to prepare teachers for a Response to Intervention service delivery model and to utilize emerging novel technology.

      Courey, S., Siker, J., Paik, J., & Balogh, E. (2010). Academic Music: Understanding Basic Fraction Concepts Through Music Notation. (under review, Journal for Research in Mathematics Education)

      Fuchs, L. S., Fuchs, D., Finelli, R., Courey, S. J., Hamlett, C. L., Sones, E. M., & Hope, S. (2006). Teaching third graders about real-life mathematical problem solving: A randomized controlled study. Elementary School Journal 106, 293-312.

      Fuchs, L.S., Fuchs, D., & Courey, S.J. (2005). Curriculum-based measurement of mathematics competence: From computation to concepts and applications to real-life problem solving. Assessment for Effective Instruction, 30, 33-46.

      Fuchs, L.S., Fuchs, D., Prentice, K., Hamlett, C.L., Finelli, R., Courey, S.J. (2004). Enhancing mathematical problem solving among third-grade students with schema-based instruction. Journal of Educational Psychology. 96, 635-645.

      I think you owe her a great big apology .

      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 11:48:40 AM PDT

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    •  Actually, it's not as corporate as you're (1+ / 0-)
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      interpreting it to be.

      It's really a program designed by two enterprising teachers who got some funding and are still, it seems, in the field-testing stage at a small selection of schools throughout one area of California.

      http://toonesam.org/...

      Perhaps at one point if they get lots of enrollment and it seems profitable, they might make themselves into a whole corporation/charter school type for-profit deal.  But as of now they don't seem "corporate."

      That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

      by concernedamerican on Sun Apr 08, 2012 at 01:36:14 PM PDT

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