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  •  I think it was the part about the witness seeing (7+ / 0-)

    Paterno raping a boy in the showers.

    His [the witness'] reaction shocked me.

    He left and reported it to authorities.

    Perhaps it is in my nature to be reckless, but I have intervened in less shocking situations.

    When I imagine this, I cannot even picture myself being silent.

    That child deserved better.

    A minor cannot consent to such an act. So there is no ambiguity as to what should have happened there.

    The "Good Man" chose to do nothing in that moment. Letting that child know that no one would protect him from Paterno. The witness covered his ass later by reporting it to an ineffective bureaucracy, but nothing else happened.

    When you are the target of bullying, or assault, and people walk on by, seemingly disinterested in your plight, they are choosing to do nothing.

    These people might be pillars of the community, help old ladies across the street, pay their taxes and check their smoke alarms. They might give to charity and never drink and drive--but in that moment, they choose not to act.

    Just the sound of their voice could mean the difference, maybe stop the commission of a crime or break a cycle of abuse. But instead they turn away and keep silent, given permission to the perp to carry on.

    That is why evil can and does triumph when good people remain silent.

    Silence means compliance.

    •  It wasn't Paterno in the shower (7+ / 0-)

      But Paterno knew about the abuse and didn't go to police.  Hence Kalil's comment about:

      "All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

      "To me, women and avocados are evidence that there might be intelligent design in the universe". Jlukes on DK

      by TX Freethinker on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 07:45:50 AM PDT

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      •  I apologize if I got the name wrong (4+ / 0-)
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        A person who works at the college saw the person in question raping a child in the showers.

        •  It was Jerry Sandusky and a grad student who (2+ / 0-)
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          then became a coach, Mike McQueary , was the witness to the sexual assault of a chld described as around 10 years old by Jerry Sandusky. McQueary told Paterno who reported it to the Athletic Director and the Director of the Campus Police Services.  

          I am too close to that whole situation as my dad worked for these people and I went to high school with the AD and I have several friends who played for Paterno and I played college sports for Penn State. So I am very, very reluctant to talk about at all.

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          by wishingwell on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 03:20:04 PM PDT

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    •  Well actually he didn't report it to authorities.. (5+ / 0-)

      he called his father. And then Paterno. I can't remember the exact order of events TBH, but in any case it was never reported to the police.

      To an extent, I guess I can understand someone not jumping in and intervening- even though I'm positive that's what I've done, I know my perspective is different because I was exposed to abuse and violence from a young age, so it's not really shocking to me. For most people it is, and it's hard to say what you will do in that situation. So I would be lenient if he was so shocked by what he saw that it took him a few moments to have it sink in and figure out what he would do...but at the very least, he should have called the police. But he didn't. Nobody did.

      The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places ~Ernest Hemingway
      Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle ~ Anonymous

      by SwedishJewfish on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 08:39:53 AM PDT

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      •  I don't agree (9+ / 0-)

        There was a rape being committed on a child.

        That calls for intervention. Even if it's pulling the fire alarm in the gym or creating some other kind of disruption to the act.

        If it had been a gang of armed assailants, I would be more forgiving about not immediately doing something to disrupt the act.

        But a naked, unarmed man in a shower?

        •  I agree with you (4+ / 0-)
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          I used a poor choice of words, that did not come across the way I intended it to at all.

          When I say "a few moments" I mean just that- a few moments to come to terms with what he was seeing, and then act. When you are confronted by something that is so shocking, the automatic response is to kind of dissociate and disbelieve what you are seeing-it's a defense mechanism. I know this because I've witnessed it myself (as a child, granted) and my immediate reaction was "that isn't really happening, I'm just imagining it"

          So I would have been lenient if it took him a few moments to comprehend what he was seeing before he acted. But there is no excuse for ducking out and running while a child is being brutalized. None. His response to was beyond cowardly-it was callous indifference to the suffering of a child.

          The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places ~Ernest Hemingway
          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle ~ Anonymous

          by SwedishJewfish on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 10:43:37 AM PDT

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      •  Please disregard above comment (1+ / 0-)
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        it was sloppily worded due to lack of sleep...there is no excuse for failing to intervene if a child is getting raped, and I did not mean to suggest that at all.

        The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places ~Ernest Hemingway
        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle ~ Anonymous

        by SwedishJewfish on Mon Apr 16, 2012 at 12:50:30 PM PDT

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