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  •  I think I get it... (6+ / 0-)

    it's convoluted, but most of this type of thinking is convoluted, so bear with me.

    These gents want to change their name, because of marriage.

    Ohio allows name changes for marriage.

    Ohio constitution prohibits men from marrying each other.

    If the judge approves their request, then he establishes a precedent, of sorts, that two men can be married in Ohio.

    If they put any other reason on their request, he approves it (wink wink) with no hassles.

    Judge should disapprove on Ohio constitutional grounds, then they should sue Ohio and take it to the US Supreme Court to get Ohio's constitutional provision overturned.

    Equality is a basic principle, like honesty. Either we believe in it, or we don't. When we try to have it both ways we wind up with tangled situations like this.

    "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

    by Orinoco on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 10:35:11 AM PDT

    •  Well, I don't think it's that straightforward. (10+ / 0-)

      It seems that Ohio law says you cannot change your name for certain reasons, as opposed to saying you are only allowed to change your name for certain reasons.

      Given that it doesn't say "You cannot change your name because you were married in another state" one could argue that that is a perfectly valid (non-fradulent) reason, even if you can't get married in Ohio or have the marriage recognized.

      •  The litmus test (1+ / 0-)
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        Does Ohio allow name changes in recognition of RDP status, or if no RDP status is legally available, for recognition of the kind of relationship that might qualify for RDP status if it existed?

        sin and love and fear are just sounds that people who never sinned nor loved nor feared have for what they never had and cannot have until they forget the words

        by harrije on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 11:50:31 AM PDT

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          •  Registered Domestic Partner (2+ / 0-)
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            Not this mind and not this heart, I won't rot • Mumford & Sons

            by jayden on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 12:04:03 PM PDT

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          •  Registered Domestic Partner (2+ / 0-)
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            Sorry, I should have been clearer.

            RDP is a type of status that some counties and municipalities offer their residents. Here in Dallas, it is the only way to get any legal recognition at all of a same-sex relationship. But, it can be beneficial as many employers (including mine) will accept RDP status as a marriage equivalent for benefits purposes.

            There are a few other perks as well. It's a sad substitute for marriage, but it's the best Dallas County can do until the rest of the state pulls itself out of the stone age.

            (RDP status is not limited to same-sex couples -- it is an equal opportunity designation and does not discriminate against heterosexuals.)

            sin and love and fear are just sounds that people who never sinned nor loved nor feared have for what they never had and cannot have until they forget the words

            by harrije on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 12:12:58 PM PDT

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