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  •  And who, exactly, pillaged their communities? (1+ / 0-)
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    Eclectablog

    The Democrats?  President Obama?  My God, Romney's answer to their issues was to let GM go bankrupt.

    If this is the kind of knee jerk thinking the democrats of Michigan have come to, then they deserve the governor they have.  But the rest of the country does not deserve a president like Snyder.

    And about the time they don't see it as "rape and pillage" of their rights, is about the time they and we are as ripe for fascist solutions to hard problems as we can be.  This is EXACTLY what happened in Germany.  Just make it better and fast, and we don't care how you do it.

    "Like it or not," you said.  I. DON'T. LIKE. IT.

    •  There's been lots of folks over many years (2+ / 0-)
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      Eclectablog, memiller

      This isn't about Romney, Obama or presidential politics.  What's going bad in these places has been happening for many decades now.  Like most large urban cities, they have been predominantly Democratic.  Many have had their share of crooked Dems.  Kwame Kilpatrick and Coleman Young are the face of the Democratic party to a lot of folks around here.  Both are used as boogeymen to keep Republicans in power throughout the state.

      The folks in the cities currently under emergency management have seen all kinds of talk and plans to get the cities back in shape, but the death spiral persists.  They're being offered the choice of fascism or oblivion.  And then you have the vast majority of the voters not directly under emergency managers who don't mind as long as it doesn't come in their backyard.  We can't just be the party of "no fascism" -- we have to have some sort of positive alternative that works, and that's hard hard stuff.

      My point is that if we put it to a vote, we may not get the results that are hoped for.  If there isn't overwhelming support in Detroit, I could easily see this going the way of the Walker recall -- lots of signatures and enthusiasm, some Republican tomfoolery so it doesn't make it on the November ballot, and ultimately a loss.  

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