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  •  Hell. Do it for the memory of Lyndon. (14+ / 0-)

    Our last progressive president, who was done in by Vietnam.  Maybe not the state, but in 2012, the GOTV effort has to be focused on any congressional district that presents the possibility of being flipped, and of course we can't lose any of the seats we have now.

    -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

    by Dave in Northridge on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 06:31:26 AM PDT

    •  LBJ (15+ / 0-)

      such a complicated history, but consigned by Vietnam to be poorly regarded. However the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, and Medicare should give him some love.

      I've been wanting to write a diary just about him, but I don't think I can do it justice.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 06:38:44 AM PDT

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      •  Of COURSE you can! (5+ / 0-)

        I'll give it some thought.  We're not all Robert Caro, after all.

        -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

        by Dave in Northridge on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 06:58:12 AM PDT

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      •  Consigned him to be poorly regarded? (7+ / 0-)

        LBJ's screw up with Viet Nam may be (and should be) important to people who were of draft age during his presidency, but I think his progressive accomplishments far outweigh the war in how he should be regarded by posterity.

        LBJ happens to be a hero of mine. Go to the LBJ library in Austin and look at the wall on which is engraved all of the bills that made up the Great Society and see if you can manage to hold back the tear which will well up in your eye. Betcha can't help but shed it. ;)

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        by commonmass on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:22:07 AM PDT

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        •  I've been there (4+ / 0-)
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          many a debate in college were centered around him. I am a fan of LBJ because I think I understand how much he had to do Vietnam and didn't want to. That is why I think it is so complicted. We tend to forget context with history and how the Cold War influenced so many decisions.

          But the Great Society should make the man a hero, I agree.

          The Spice must Flow!

          by Texdude50 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:37:23 AM PDT

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        •  Were it not for Vietnam... (5+ / 0-)

          ...LBJ would probably be considered on of the top 6 Presidents in American history behind only the sacred five: Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and the two Roosevelts.

          He was an enigma to be sure, but there are fewer northeast liberals out there that cared more for common people and underprivileged people than he much less ornery Texas SOBs. And that description is made with great fondness. Quite an accomplishment for a man that was born and raised in one of the most conservative, Republican areas of the state in a time in Texas when Republicans were about as popular as Communists at a 1950's McCarthy rally.

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          by craigkg on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:42:04 AM PDT

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      •  His early experience teaching Mexican (4+ / 0-)
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        kids in Cotulla. His tight friends along the border. His loyalty to country.

        But yeah, Vietnam. At least we can say he was truly heart broken by the war, and his role in it.

        "Force is as pitiless to the man who possesses it, or thinks he does, as it is to its victims; the second it crushes, the first it intoxicates.” Simone Weil

        by chuco35 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:10:39 AM PDT

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    •  Deeper Than That Dave. Much Deeper. (4+ / 0-)
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      Texas needs to organize and GOTV in all counties. If we whittle our deficit in a dark red county from 75-25% to 65-35%, that is a victory. If we increase registration and turn out in minority counties by 10-15%, even if the counties are so blue that the congressional seats are a cinch, that's a victory even if Rmoney takes the state.

      We are fighting for the future, but fighting now by all means possible because the stakes are decisive, regardless of whether we lose upcoming battles.

      "Force is as pitiless to the man who possesses it, or thinks he does, as it is to its victims; the second it crushes, the first it intoxicates.” Simone Weil

      by chuco35 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:08:17 AM PDT

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