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  •  Until Wal-Mart is unionized it is a dirty word (3+ / 0-)

    to me,  that only benefits the dumbing down of America and more enrichment of the filthy rich who promote more for their own.     We need a unionized Wal Mart that can not be outsourced and that begins to create diverse widespread political strength.  

    Instead we have created a stratified country of a rich ruling caste that expects a Harvard or Yale graduate degree paid by mommy and daddy (no debt) contrasted with a working class that has less influence and net worth with every passing year.

    The filthy rich promote their private wars fought by average Americans instead of them serving and becoming intimately involved and sacrificing their own.  Google military demographics.  The financial caste counts their money while the working class hopes not to bury their kids.  

    Examine the ethnic demographics of our military and you will find that those most overrepresented as media talking heads and those in policy making positions are least represented in the military that is forced to die for policymakers.  

    We have allowed a topsy-turvy country to be created where most have less of everything including money and influence and the few have more of everything.

    Victims of bigotry are the poorest, least influential members of society.......never the wealthiest, most educated, most overrepresented in high levels, and most influential. Bigotry hurts the least influential. To claim or say otherwise is absurd.

    by dailykozzer on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 05:12:47 PM PDT

    •  Military Demographics and Ethnicity (0+ / 0-)

      Googling military demographics does not support the statements in the preceding comment. The author of that comment is either giving vent to a popular prejudice/misconception, or simply talking through his/her hat.

      The DoD does not publish statistics on ethnicity, but only on race (Whites, Blacks, Asian/Pacific Islanders, Native Americans) and Hispanics.  Whites and Blacks are overrepresented, Hispanics underrepresented.

      The DoD does not provide data on family income of military personnel; efforts to deduce such data from census tracts where personnel originated are too crude to identify subgroups above a household income of $100,000 (a group which is overrepresented in the military).

      The most overrepresented groups in the military are southerners. Judging by statistics on chaplains, non-traditional Protestants are heavily overrepresented and all other religious groups are underrepresented.

      But it is always a mistake to view the world through the lens of ethnic stereotyping. The result is distortion if not blindness. Individuals are individuals, and if members of a particular ethnic group are found in greater or lesser numbers in particular social niches, the explanations are more complex than ethnicity alone.

      Since the author of the previous comment evidently believes that ethnic stereotypes are informative, and since the topic of this diary is the labor movement, he/she might like to investigate which group(s) were overrepresented in the development of the American labor movement and are still overrepresented among labor activists today. One might start by googling the history of the AFL, the ILGWU, the UFT, the ACWU and the CIO.

      •  I appreciate your reply (0+ / 0-)

        We sometimes disagree but each know where the other is coming from.   I come from a belief that democracy demands appropriate representative balance and demands equal representation, and you from a belief that to question the current biased  arrangement is somehow wrong.    

        Our media and political wonks tout and claim daily that we live in the greatest democracy on Earth.   Frankly I see that as BS.   Our middle class has lost numbers and ground while the elite few (Hollywood types,  Wall St, lobbyists, CEOs,  entertainers,  university CEOs, sports stars, owners and promoters, etc  have all gained enormously.   The few gain big time while the many lose big time.

        Democracy means equality.  It means every ethnic and demographic group should participate and sacrifice equally and defend the USA equally.  It should mean that we never tolerate certain groups or tribes within our democracy as having more or less influence than others.     Most importantly it should mean every citizen regardless of their creed should have the unfettered right to freely discuss this relationship (or lack of) without ever being artificially accused of bigotry.

        Regarding the USA military, of which I once participated honorably but un-heroically 67-73.    The DoD should provide public statistical analysis of ethnic backgrounds of all armed forces members,   as well as their demographic and economic backgrounds to ensure an appropriate balance of sacrifice to country,   as this balance is again fundamental to equality and democracy.     An Ivy League grad should not get an exemption for a job at Wall St.,  while a Podunk HS grad should mean enlisted with  AIT.   Every American should be required to serve the country instead of their ambitions,  as Charles Rangel said.

        The most significant element of national influence comes from the media.   Representation needs balanced.     The FCC (or Media Matters) have a role to keep an ethnic balance and unbiased cultural point of view provided by all media mouthpieces.   The message from media talking heads, pundits, reporters,  publishers  who control the message that the huddled masses will hear from our supposed democratically provided MSM should be apolitical and non-ethnic.   We require ethnic balance in the media and it needs closely tracked because an egalitarian message is important.    Every astute American should become tuned directly into the media and origination of the message.

        We need to wholly support organized labor, but the union leadership needs a positive image and to become underpaid and benevolent to society and to the organization,   instead of allowing hacks to portray them as thugs as hoods.    Unions need an image makeover.

        Victims of bigotry are the poorest, least influential members of society.......never the wealthiest, most educated, most overrepresented in high levels, and most influential. Bigotry hurts the least influential. To claim or say otherwise is absurd.

        by dailykozzer on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 05:37:38 PM PDT

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