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  •  Frankly, it may work out better for the people in (3+ / 0-)
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    these states who are refusing to set it up.  In that case, the Federal government will provide an exchange for those individuals.  I think I'm right on that.

    This way, it'll keep federal dollars out of these Rethuglican governor's hands where no doubt they would use it for some nefarious purpose other than what it was designed for.  Like subsidies for their corporate overlords.

    If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

    by livjack on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 01:13:31 PM PDT

    •  The problem is the Medicaid expansion. (7+ / 0-)

      Or the lack thereof.

      Unless the state accepts federal Medicaid dollars and expands eligibility to 100% of poverty, there is no money for subsidies or anything else.

      They are creating, in essence, a doughnut hole into which people who don't already qualify for Medicaid or have insurance are going to fall. Only those in the 133% to 100% of poverty will qualify for help on the exchanges.

      The exchanges do nothing to help the group with no access -- mostly poor, single adults. Unless you are pregnant or have a condition that already qualifies you for Medicaid, you are pretty much out of luck.

      "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

      by Brooke In Seattle on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 01:27:00 PM PDT

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      •  It's both problems (6+ / 0-)

        They want to reject Medicaid, and they want to reject exchanges, making the feds set up the exchanges. So now they're saying that if the feds set up exchanges in these states, they can't provide the subsidies.

        So, no Medicaid, no federal assistance to purchase insurance on the exchanges.

        "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

        by Joan McCarter on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 01:31:19 PM PDT

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        •  True. But I believe they will still (4+ / 0-)
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          get exchanges set up for the people in those states eventually, even if they are run by the federal government.

          They can't force the Medicaid money on the states, or force them to change their eligibility requirements.

          I'm in that 100% of poverty hole, so this affects me directly. I live in Texas now, even though my blog name seems to indicate otherwise.

          I can't stand to give up my five-digit UID.

          :~)

          "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

          by Brooke In Seattle on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 02:48:49 PM PDT

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    •  problem (1+ / 0-)
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      The problem is...the GOP is claiming that people participating in the federally established exchanges wouldn't get the extra subsidies, due to a drafting error.

      In the past, they'd routinely just "fix" the drafting errors, after the fact, through legislation.

      •  And we don't know whether there really is (0+ / 0-)

        a drafting error.  Just like the Repugs and their pals in the traditional media managed to make most people think the law would be declared unconstitutional, they might be trying to make people think there was some sort of error.

        Nevertheless, if there really is an error, I have no confidence that John Roberts would rule the reasonable way again.  

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