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  •  Not sure what this gets anyone. (2+ / 0-)
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    joe from Lowell, PatriciaVa

    My bigger question is that I could not figure out what the Arab League can give Assad.  To my memory, only Bahrain is a Shi'a-majority state (ignore Iraq for a moment), and its Shi'a population is squished under the thumb of a as-Saud sponsored Sunni monarchy.  Iraq is Shi'a majority and now has a predominantly Shi'a government but they are in no position to buy the kind of trouble the Assad would come with, no less because Iraq of all places is being overwhelmed with Syrian refugees - anyhow, what super-rich dictator would willingly choose to live in Iraq?  Trade unlimited dictatorial power for intermittent electrical power?

    Basically, Assad does not have Arab allies, although in periodically allowing and/or encouraging the murder of Israeli citizens he occasionally is treated in accordance with the principle of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."

    Unless by "safe passage" they literally mean "safe passage" to another state, e.g. Iran or Russia, but that would require both an invitation to Russia or Iran (Assad is useless to the Iranians in Iran and a liability to the Russians in Russia) and the decision-making capacity to choose to flee the country.  So... safe passage to where, precisely?

    Knowing that, he'll surely fight to the bitter end.  Death by artillery shell or by Hitleresque suicide is probably preferable to what the rebels will offer him.

    "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

    by auron renouille on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 01:12:48 AM PDT

    •  I don't assume we'd know the answer to that. (1+ / 0-)
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      Easy enough for the US Military to transport him out of Iraq, or for the Saudis to slip him away. The sort of anonymous travel a plane leaving Syria for Russia can't quite offer.

      It's still a terrible idea, though. 20,000+ deaths and no justice doesn't tend to set a country on the right path.

      •  For a nation birthed in blood, (2+ / 0-)
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        the right path was unfortunately discovered to have been been bombed out over a year ago.

        I hate it.  I hate that the UN observer mission is such a farce that it should be canceled, that Assad will either escape to the comparative luxury of the Black Sea or be killed in a makeshift bunker, that the leaders of Syria, if the opposition wins, will all have a lot of blood on their hands, I hate the whole thing.  But Assad's dictatorship has so thoroughly poisoned the well that it's really no longer possible to do this in an orderly fashion.  There's no Slovakia to be found here and the only way to end the violence is for one of the sides to win.  That's kind of chilling and on some level it argues in favor of Western military intervention if only so Assad loses faster and thus kills fewer people.  But then is the opposition forever tainted as Western puppets?  They don't seem to be in Libya, but Libya ain't Syria.

        It's gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

        "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

        by auron renouille on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 01:44:14 AM PDT

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        •  Intervention is a vague term. (2+ / 0-)
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          auron renouille, angry marmot

          There was no occupation in Libya.  That is a crucial distinction.

          Art is the handmaid of human good.

          by joe from Lowell on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 08:39:29 AM PDT

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          •  Sorry for the dead thread reply, but yes. (1+ / 0-)
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            Any intervention would need to be by air (and perhaps sea), probably from Turkey.  Cyprus would be quite convenient, perhaps RAF Akrotiri, but the UK won't touch this with a barge pole until after the Olympics close and Cyprus is of course politically controversial.  But I agree, what made Libya so successful and in the end non-controversial was the complete absence of boots on the ground.

            "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

            by auron renouille on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 02:31:48 AM PDT

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      •  That's always the question in these situations. (0+ / 0-)

        How many more lives are worth bringing the dictator to justice?

        It is deeply unjust that, say, Idi Amin gets to live a cushy retirement, but if offering some bloody bastard much more mercy than he deserves can prevent additional weeks of bloodshed, how can anyone say no?

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 08:37:38 AM PDT

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