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  •  Sorry, Off Topic, but (6+ / 0-)

    Word is Rob Portman is busy today revising his Wiki page... typically this is done when one is on the Veep short list.. or the actual pick.

    I really thought it would be T-Paw

    "A civilization which does not provide young people with a way to earn a living is pretty poor". Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Superpole on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 11:37:09 AM PDT

    •  Portman and Ryan have had a ton of activity on (3+ / 0-)
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      their Wikipedia pages over the past day. T-Paw, not nearly as much. Guess that narrows it down to two people.

      "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

      by yg17 on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 11:48:29 AM PDT

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      •  IF Rmoney is smart (0+ / 0-)

        which I'm not sure he is... plus his phony religion/culture may be clouding his judgement;

        He'd pick Portman... that may lock in Ohio, and it's hard to win w/o Ohio

        "A civilization which does not provide young people with a way to earn a living is pretty poor". Eleanor Roosevelt

        by Superpole on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 12:07:43 PM PDT

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        •  There is zero polling showing that Portman (1+ / 0-)
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          helps Romney in Ohio. There is polling that shows Portman hurting Romney in Ohio though.

          Portman is dull as dirt and isn't going to help Romney at all.

          President Obama at Madison Rally 9/28/2010 - "Change is not a spectator sport."

          by askew on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 01:44:41 PM PDT

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          •  What sort of "polls"? (0+ / 0-)

            I don't put much stock in them.

            all I know is Obama won OH last time by 104,000 or so votes.

            that's not much of a margin.

            "A civilization which does not provide young people with a way to earn a living is pretty poor". Eleanor Roosevelt

            by Superpole on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 02:02:43 PM PDT

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            •  No, it's not a huge margin, in (0+ / 0-)

              either absolute or percentage terms. It's also a margin that is likely to go down simply because 2012 might end up being tougher than 2012 in Ohio.

              Just for shits and giggles, let's chop that in half. Do you think Portman can move 52,000 votes, just by being from Ohio? Maybe he can; stranger things have happened. I think he will probably move some votes, for a few different reasons, but short of single handedly reviving the state's economy, particularly its manufacturing base, in less than two months, it just won't be by that much. Also consider that he might not be hated by Democrats, but he's hardly loved, and that he represented the old OH-02, which was Obama's third worst district in Ohio in 2008. There's probably only so much untapped potential, unless this district has a shit ton of voters waiting to emerge from the woodwork to support a Romney-Portman ticket.

              "The election of Mitt Romney and a supporting congress this November would be a...disaster for America. Think of the trainwreck that has been the Conservative government in Britain since 2010. And square it."--Brad DeLong

              by bjssp on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 10:05:32 PM PDT

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        •  Romney needs to shore up two things: (0+ / 0-)

          1.  His economy cred (which people actually appear to think he'd be better at than Obama, although most of this is undoubtedly a result of the unemployment numbers)

          2.  Foreign policy.

          Romney will be the first Republican Presidential candidate in a long while running at a deficiency when it comes to foreign policy.  His tour across Europe was absolutely nothing compared to Obama's, and he's not going to have anything to compete with the impressive resume Obama has chalked up in his term.

          There is a reasonable belief that Obama selected Biden not because Biden could secure Pennsylvania (which seemed like a money trap for the GOP anyways), but because he could provide some of the foreign policy cred he appeared to be deficient in.

          Romney exposes himself considerably if he just ignores this and focuses solely on either winning one state or trying to make the election about the economy (which is dangerous on his part if jobs numbers continue to inch up).  Remember, Obama has several paths to victory; Romney only has one.  Plugging the electoral hole in Ohio can easily expose him in Virginia, and vice versa.  I don't think Romney is going to choose someone to deliver a state, nor is this really the modus operandi for most VP selections in recent years anyways.

    •  Yesterday As Well, Somebody Put Up some Snap (1+ / 0-)
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      shots indicating the editing activity.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 11:49:13 AM PDT

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    •  Wikipedia page... (2+ / 0-)
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      I've taken a look at the edits, and I'd say that the primary changes today have been removal of unreferenced information in the article, there are at least 3 or 4 experienced wikipedia editors who have edited it in the last 24 hours and who are watching it. The most recent bunch of changes is at , so if you think something that was deleted should be re-added, please reference it.  

    •  The current equivalent of reading tea leaves? (0+ / 0-)

      or perhaps it's like the old practice of trying to figure out what was going on in the Soviet Union by examining the seating arrangements in photos of the Politburo members.

    •  I would expect Portman (0+ / 0-)

      Reasonably competent, background in previous GOP adminisration, from a pivotal state with a good share of electoral votes.
      One caveat: Presidential candidates do seem to like to throw surprises. Examples: McCain needed to please the Right Wing, but Sarah Palin was not the only possible choice. Neither was Joe Biden.

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      by scott5js on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 02:28:24 PM PDT

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      •  She was basically his only choice (0+ / 0-)

        if he wanted to pick a female Senator or Governor.

        27, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-14 (formerly PA-02/NY-12).

        by Xenocrypt on Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 06:50:29 AM PDT

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