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  •  I watched Rand Paul on Morning Joe today (5+ / 0-)
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    Richard Wolfe asked repeatedly how the "free market" was better than the government for providing healthcare to the poor.   Like a parrot, Sen. Paul just kept repeating "free market... free market..." and never answered the question.  How in the heck is someone with NO MONEY supposed to buy health insurance?

    "We *can* go back to the Dark Ages! The crust of learning and good manners and tolerance is so thin!" -- Sinclair Lewis

    by Nespolo on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 09:11:34 AM PDT

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    •  The "Free Market" fanboy (4+ / 0-)
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      can't just say that sick poor people will die? Fine by me if Rand and company want to trumpet this "ideal free market" healthcare bullshit, but they are such cowards about what that will mean for the rest of us. The answer to the question is easy. More poor people who get sick will die, more middle-class people who get very sick will die. And heaven forbid that we have a serious outbreak of influenza, or smallpox, or some measles variant because all those people who can't afford to see a doctor will be spreading it around at work and in their rich employers house and then even those rich people will die.

    •  So, if you're having a heart attack, (4+ / 0-)
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      you are supposed to shop around on the "free market" for the most effective and least costly health care.

      •  This is a very important point, often overlooked. (5+ / 0-)
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        The facts are that health care, especially emergency health care is not the kind of thing that has a "market".  There is little or no choice about where to go or who to see, and very often, the patient never gets to make such a choice as emergency patients are often unconscious, in an ambulance where the decisions are in the hands of paramedics, or so anxious that the closest ER is the default choice.
             When you go to the market, you get to compare price, quality, effectiveness, vendor or manufacturer reliability, etc.  Health care, legal service and other professional services do not fit the "market" model that is appropriate to food, automobiles and widgets generally.

        Patriotism may be the last refuge of scoundrels, but religion is assuredly the first.

        by StrayCat on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 10:18:55 AM PDT

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