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  •  doc2: i'm also a lifetime liberal. But let's think (1+ / 0-)
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    about what MLK would have done/said/advocated here.  I can't see him approving of this. He faced dogs and firehoses with peace. These girls reacted to words with violence.

    Liberals: Taking crap for being right since before you were born. - Driftglass (and the amazing Professional Left Podcast at http://professionalleft.blogspot.com/)

    by briefer on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 10:40:56 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah. (4+ / 0-)

      I still am happy they did it (though sad at the prospect of what they face as punishment). One could argue that women in Islamic republics like Iran have it considerably worse than blacks in 1960 America had it. But I don't want to get into a pissing match about that claim.

    •  Fair enough. But sometimes years of repression (2+ / 0-)
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      and attacks on ones' sense of dignity and self esteem can result in an uncontrollable act of violence against those or the person seen as responsible.

      How do we treat the victims of such treatment that explode violently suddenly?

      Vote Tea Party Taliban! Bring the Burqa to America.

      by Pescadero Bill on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 10:49:02 AM PDT

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    •  If MLK had tried that in a country like today's (0+ / 0-)

      Iran he and his group would have just been exterminated.  Why don't you ask the White Rose how effective they were with non-violence.  Oh right, you can't because they went to the ovens just like the rest.

      There is no saving throw against stupid.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 04:36:56 PM PDT

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    •  It's interesting to contemplate. (0+ / 0-)

      His general guideline was nonviolent action that would cause his opponents to act shamefully or suffer serious inconvenience but not violence.  

      I don't know how this guideline would apply in a small town, particularly a small conservative town where influential women approve of headscarves and lumpy clothing.  

      "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

      by Yamaneko2 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 04:41:07 PM PDT

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    •  oh bullshit they reacted to the words! (0+ / 0-)

      the reacted to a long time pattern of oppression.
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      there is such a thing as historical violence, you know.
      and most times, its reversal begins as a small act of incidental violence.  

      that's what, imo, we're all cheering for here:  the beginning of a reversal, an act of spontaneity overcoming oppression, a crack in the wall that weakens it and encourages its collapse.

      “And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.” ― William Gibson, Count Zero (-9.75 / -9.05)

      by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 05:30:36 PM PDT

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