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  •  It's a side effect. (4+ / 0-)
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    The main reason they hate education is that it produces a well-informed and self-confident work force, one that's much too difficult to cow into underpaid submission. But it's a side effect they like.

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

    by sidnora on Fri Sep 28, 2012 at 11:30:44 AM PDT

    •  The true sign that the GOP hates education, has (10+ / 0-)

      been their nonstop assault on primary school since the stealth campaigns in the 80s.

      They cannot "unlearn" the adults, but they can prevent children from becoming well rounded individuals due to a good, well grounded primary education.

      This is why their primary attacks on education have been mostly on introducing revisionist history into our Primary school text books, with a heaping of their personal brand of pseudo-science, and a complete makeover of social studies which in it's best form, teaches multi-culturalism.

      Their other assault on high edu has mainly been through For-Profit course work that targets active duty and veterans, which teaches the same concepts listed above, but in an adult tone.

      Accredited institutions dropped the ball on serious distance learning, especially with Active Duty people. For the longest time the only degrees offered across the board to deployed folks were MBA type degrees, leaving out History, Humanities, Political Science,  and Liberal Arts.

      The For Profit religious schools were more than happy to fill their vacuum.

      And here we are.

      •  Outstanding comment. (2+ / 0-)
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        I agree in every respect.

        "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

        by sidnora on Fri Sep 28, 2012 at 12:22:35 PM PDT

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        •  I tried to do Distance Learning back in the 90s (2+ / 0-)
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          while serving,  and if you weren't studying electronics, avionics, getting an accounting degree, an MBA or going to correspondence Bible Colleges, there wasn't anything for you.  You were S.O.L.

          •   I would add, things have changed since then, but (2+ / 0-)
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            it was mostly For Profit colleges that filled in this vacuum, and that includes questionable religious schools pushing bad agendas. And sadly instead of serious Institutions setting a high bar for distance learning, they have all jumped through their own asses to bend low and make like the for profit colleges.

            It's sickening.

            •  Respected colleges and universities (2+ / 0-)
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              have a lot to answer for regarding this issue. It would be interesting to learn what their rationale was for turning their back on distance learning for so long. Was it a security issue (i.e., too difficult to monitor cheating, sockpuppetry etc.)?

              I understand that no computer course can exactly replicate being in the same room with the faculty member, but having sat in lecture halls with 500 other first-year students who were expected to be passive consumers of the professor's incredibly dry and dense talk on organic chemistry, no questions allowed until the lecture was over, I can't imagine that the online experience could be that much worse.

              "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

              by sidnora on Sat Sep 29, 2012 at 03:03:38 PM PDT

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              •  I can't imagine at this point that it would be (1+ / 0-)
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                anything but excuses.

                I wanted to learn. I still do. I felt incredibly let down by what passed for choices before I actually went to a real live college. And like you said, sitting in a huge class, no questions, all reading, and lectures. I can do that with a VCR pre-computer, and ordering books by mail.

                Now the screwed up part is, that the military encourages active duty people to take coursework from these questionable institutions. I say encourage, but it's really code for, if you don't, you don't make advancement because it shows a lack of initiative.

                And the military gives this credibility. The military builds this crap up to mean more than it does. Why? Because the hole had to be filled, and regular institutions of higher EDU drop-kicked that ball out of sight and out of mind. So in our wonderful capitalist society, someone stepped up to offer the service to others, that was seen as beneath traditional universities.

                We got GIs with government money in the form of Tuition Assistance burning a hole in their back pockets--so why not take that money!

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