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  •  Yep. I've read some pros speculate that Bill's (2+ / 0-)
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    embrace of Obama for reelection was Bill's calculation that an open race in 2016 would be better for Hillary rather than her running against an incumbent President Romney. (it even hurts to type those 2 words)

    David Koch, a teacher and a Tea Partier sit down a table with a plate of a dozen cookies. Koch quickly stuffs 11 cookies in his pockets, leans to the bagger and says "watch out, the union thug will try to steal your cookie".

    by Dave in AZ on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 12:31:41 PM PDT

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    •  Even Andrew Sullivan (5+ / 0-)

      who hated the Clintons probably as much as most folks here loathed Dubya posted recently, "I'm amazing myself in saying this, but given the outstanding job she's done as Sec of State, I'd like to see her as the next president."

      How ON EARTH could a Republican debate foreign policy with her????? Paul Ryan or Chris Christie doing so with Hillary? That would be downright suicidal!

      •  If the GOP is still going down the Ryan road (0+ / 0-)

        in 2016, they will lose and lose and lose. Destroying the social safety net won't get any more popular. Unless the GOP can start embracing candidates like Huntsman instead of rejecting them out of hand, they will keep losing.

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

        by anastasia p on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 05:02:18 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, Huntsman is the GOP's last hope (0+ / 0-)

          That is sad in my opinion.  Huntsman is articulate and intelligent when it comes to answering questions and is not exactly the kind of Republican whom I consider to be divisive.  The GOP will just have to get over him serving as U.S. Ambassador to China during Obama's presidency.

    •  Clinton might be an asset even in 2016 (2+ / 0-)
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      Democrats should realize that Bill Clinton has really been the best spokesman for the party and that if he's utilized in 2016 the same way as in 2012, the case would be made that change doesn't end with Obama being president.

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