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  •  interesting sense of scale (1+ / 0-)
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    G2geek

    That analogy is interesting for providing a sense of scale that we lack when talking about future events - or current events whose cause can't be easily linked in people's minds. It certainly won't convince deniers, who will dismiss is as scare tactics, but for those looking for scale for something they already understand, historical events are so much more tangible.

    •  i'm already looking out to the consequences.... (1+ / 0-)
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      sfbob

      ... one or two billion years from now.

      Bottom line: if civilization crashes, and technology goes with it, we may never be able to recover technology to the point of being able to get back into space.   In which case the best we can hope for is a modest existence until the Sun starts expanding and Earth becomes uninhabitable about a billion years from now.

      We will have foreclosed the future for our distant descendants, bringing about the end of all life on Earth at that point, as the predictable consequence of our actions today.  

      And that is the ultimate sin.  

      So in purely moral terms, solving climate change, reducing population and consumption, etc., and thereby preserving our technological capabilities and the ability to spread into space and to other star systems: these points are moral imperatives for our age, and we cannot count on humanity ever getting a second chance if we screw up badly enough.

      "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

      by G2geek on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 11:56:29 AM PDT

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