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  •  I usually agree with you, joe, but... (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, erush1345

    what about the US troops being killed by Afghanis in uniform, those "insider" attacks?

    Perhaps I misunderstood you.

    The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

    by SoCalSal on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 06:09:15 PM PDT

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    •  those troops aren't being killed in america (1+ / 0-)
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      little lion

      when you occupy a country by force, and slaughter its civilians with great regularity, some small proportion of the people of that country will not be willing to serve as your puppet army.

      see also: the history of every colonized or occupied country in the world.

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        you're saying that the purpose of training Afghan forces by American soldiers is to have the Afghan military serve as puppet army to the USA?

        I don't think so.

        The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

        by SoCalSal on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 09:51:52 PM PDT

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        •  yes (0+ / 0-)

          that is the entire point of training another country's army after having invaded and occupied said country for years, so that they can fight those elements of the country resisting your occupation so that one's own troops don't have to.

          afghanistan is no different than a zillion similar cases historically. naturally, the occupying country - in this case, us - claims it is selflessly training these troops to be a competent national army capable of protecting that country against nefarious outsiders who want to throw it into chaos, just as it claims that the invariably venal puppet ruler that it props up - in afghanistan's case wrapped up with both the drug trade and oil corporations - is a legitimate and independent representative of said nation.

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