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  •  BBB, is it possible that some of those women (0+ / 0-)

    could swing back to Obama if they heard Paul Ryan talking about the abortion issue last night?  As social issues were not talked about in the first debate?

    Could some of those women in that squishy swing vote middle move back to Obama due to womens; issues that are now getting more attention?

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    by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:22:12 PM PDT

    •  I think I made a comment somewhere else that (5+ / 0-)

      I think we may be misreading the issue matrix for these voters just a bit. I suspect these women, more than any other group, don't like GOP position on abortion. It's mostly married, upper income white women where you find the opposition to abortion in the better gender. However, I don't think this is the only thing that is important to them.

      But it certainly wont hurt Obama to do what he didn't do in the last debate: clearly define the difference on women's issues.

      That was the one big thing I took away from that debate was him just not bringing up the entire "war on women" issues we've been running on all year.

      •  Upper income more opposed? (2+ / 0-)
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        Support for abortion is strongly positively associated with education. This poll includes education not income but they are strongly correlated.

        For 2005-2009, 35% of college graduate women favor legal under any circumstance vs. 28% for HS grad and 18% for HS grad or less.

        http://www.gallup.com/...

        •  Well, that's a different argument. (3+ / 0-)

          One can have very high education and median income. Like teachers or nurses.

          Look at it from the perspective of household income and traditional marriage and that's where you find the female component of the pro life movement: upper income married women.

          There's an old Pew study that looked at this. I'll see if I can find it.

          •  I will be interested (0+ / 0-)

            to see. I tend to think of opposition to abortion among women as occurring mainly among evangelicals (or sometimes Catholics). In general that would be married and white, but I would tend to think more often middle to lower middle, income-wise.

            Fairly well-off white women for the most part are not happy with the idea of their pregnant teenage daughters having their future educational options cut off, kwim?

            •  Me too pat of butter, I thought it was more along (0+ / 0-)

              religious lines that the women most opposed to abortion are Evangelicals and the more conservative Catholics.

              I will be interested to see a study where religion is not the only factor influencing anti choice women.  

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              by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 02:37:52 PM PDT

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        •  Maybe they figure they (1+ / 0-)
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          can afford to travel to another state, even another country if they get knocked up.  It's a case of "I've got mine".

          "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

          by TLS66 on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 02:37:08 PM PDT

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