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  •  I was at first too (16+ / 0-)

    Until I realized the GOP and their polling companies are engaging in total manipulation this time. I have never in my lifetime seen so many internal GOP affiliated polls that popped out of nowhere dumping dozens upon dozens of polls ever since the debate. It seems extremely coordinated and designed specifically to set the narrative. Filter out the trash, and Obama still has a distinct (even if small) advantage.

    •  In my 36 years deeply involved in GOTV and (7+ / 0-)

      pollitics, I have never seen so many damn polls and with such different, crazy results. Nate Silver did say polling is really noisy right now and he is having trouble making any predictions and everything is up in the air.  

      He said a lot of things he now has take back because things are happening that are totally unexpected and unpredictable and some polls are skewed.

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      by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:36:44 PM PDT

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    •  It really is true (6+ / 0-)

      Think about how much different things would be around here if folks were just looking at the reputable polls (CNN & NBC & PPP) ... Obama actually did pretty decent in those polls Ohio (+6 & +4 & +4) ... Virginia (+5, +1, +3)

      but those #s are getting swamped by all of the right wing pollsters.

    •  Yeah I wish more would realise this & factor it in (4+ / 0-)

      Several of these companies seem to do these crappy 24hr bounce polls whereas the indies/TV/Newspaper setups & PPP tend to spend a few days in the field trying to get more than an "enthusiasm for" snapshot. I am not denying a Romney shift since Oct 4th, but it's not quite the omg seismic well we're fucked bump, certainly beyond the usual polling shills who would probably find a tie in RI if they could.

      The NBC/Marist & Quinnipac polls might have given Romney his first slim leads beyond the R firms last week, and I agree CO is looking tighter than it has been all year, but all the latter were within a point... As I posted in another diary, these are the last two days results from the "indies";

      Michigan    Detroit News    Obama 49, Romney 42    Obama +7
      Ohio    NBC/WSJ/Marist    Obama 51, Romney 45    Obama +6
      Virginia    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac    Obama 51, Romney 46    Obama +5
      Wisconsin    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac    Obama 50, Romney 47    Obama +3
      Nevada    Suffolk/KSNV    Obama 47, Romney 45    Obama +2
      Florida    NBC/WSJ/Marist    Romney 47, Obama 48    Obama +1
      Virginia    NBC/WSJ/Marist    Obama 47, Romney 48    Romney +1
      Colorado    CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac    Romney 48, Obama 47    Romney +1
      Colorado    Denver Post/SurveyUSA    Romney 48, Obama 47    Romney +1

      "Never trust a man who, when left alone with a tea cosy, doesn't try it on!!"

      by EcosseNJ on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:54:25 PM PDT

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