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  •  exactly and romney isn't freezing babies either (6+ / 0-)

    and you know what else right wingers are going crazy happy over? right now? over at FR?
    that supposedly droves of people were leaving the obama/clinton rally in VA and everyone was bored and cold and hating obama.
    that's right  they are basing it on some tweets posted by a right wing blogger who was there .
    and oh yeah, obama's crowds are tiny and romney's are HUGE

    this diary, it's sister diary, and the the responses and recs are embarrassing for this place.

    We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

    by Christin on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:05:18 PM PST

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    •  ALSO the diarist conveniently left out (8+ / 0-)

      the fact that the reporter sent out this:

      Corey@CoreyCW 4 Nov 12
      OMG! Romney campaign rally happening right now in PA outdoors, very cold, & Romney staffers are trying to force ppl to stay. via @JFKucinich
      Jackie Kucinich@JFKucinich
      @CoreyCW that isn't what happened
      4 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
      * * *
      that update is missing.
      along with update that it was Secret Service who had some concerns and cause this delay.

      CRINGE WORTHY.

      We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

      by Christin on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:18:33 PM PST

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      •  Yeah. Right. (2+ / 0-)
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        Like someone actually leaving from where Romney is would be a threat.

        Wouldn't pay to own up to it now would it?

        Frankly, I really don't get a damn either way.

        "No, I'm being judged against the ideal. Joe Biden has a saying: 'Don't judge me against the Almighty, judge me against the alternative." --President Barack Obama, 12/11/11

        by smoothnmellow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:30:14 PM PST

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        •  whatever.... (1+ / 0-)
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          gustynpip

          this diary is the equivalent of red state free republic garbage about how obama supporters leave his rallies because they are bored, that no one even attends his rallies, and that riots occur at his rallies .
          all diaried at both sites, all recc'd, all drooled over, all based on some tweets from one or two people, all based on lies, and all no reported by the lamestream media .

          funny how all these tortured souls are being held in some prison camp and and are NOT talking to the media isn't it.

          oh that's right - you don't care.

          We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

          by Christin on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:36:55 PM PST

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          •  Except the lady talked directly to the reporter (5+ / 0-)

            And now the campaign is in CYA mode.

          •  Christin, have you stopped to think about who (3+ / 0-)
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            Aquarius40, colleen, CuriousBoston

            was citing "security concerns"?  It wasn't the Secret Service.  It was staffers or campaign event people.  And frankly, Romney's/GOP's campaign people were bullshitting.  They were making that up when they told that to people.  Not letting people out to go home or go to the bathroom or whatever has nothing to do with "security" at a campaign event.  The crowd has to be able to do what it needs to do to stay comfortable for true "security" at a campaign event.  

            They just didn't want images of the crowd streaming out, or of a thinned crowd.  It was all about the optics, but they justified it with "security concerns."  That's pretty callous, and pretty par for the course with the Romney campaign.

            That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

            by concernedamerican on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 04:19:19 AM PST

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    •  Wait a minute. I got what the person (3+ / 0-)
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      was trying to say and I don't think that person was implying that the Democrats did this.  That person was talking in general and to a certain extent, he is right.  Any Romney supporter who would stand being forced to stay at his rally needs to rethink their lives and what it stands for.  It has come down to this.  A good number of us is off -- generally speaking.

      "No, I'm being judged against the ideal. Joe Biden has a saying: 'Don't judge me against the Almighty, judge me against the alternative." --President Barack Obama, 12/11/11

      by smoothnmellow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:22:09 PM PST

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      •  It fits the pattern (5+ / 0-)

        Rmoney supporters, like the good little low-information voters they are, are extremely frightened and feel powerless by a world they don't understand.

        They crave a strong figure who will take charge and tell them what to do, who promises, "let me run things and you'll be safe."

        This is why a Rmoney-supporting parent who's child is in distress will stay at a rally because some flunky "in charge" told him he couldn't leave.

        I've been in a similar situation where some rent-a-cop told me I had to queue up behind 10-12 other people to get my bags checked before I could leave the store. My son was having a hard time and was upset, so I made the decision to walk out immediately, ignoring the objections of Mr. RAC, because my son is more important than a damn store ... Or political rally.


        “Make it a rule of life never to regret and never to look back. Regret is an appalling waste of energy; you can't build on it; it's only for wallowing in.” — Katherine Mansfield

        by Simolean on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:57:56 PM PST

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        •  And if that RAC had decided to put you under (0+ / 0-)

          arrest (or at least citizen's arrest) would you have physically resisted?  With deadly force (such as whacking him over the head with a heavy object) if necessary?

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 09:41:08 PM PST

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          •  Then the guard should be charged (4+ / 0-)
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            And if that RAC had decided to put you under
            arrest (or at least citizen's arrest) would you have physically resisted?  With deadly force (such as whacking him over the head with a heavy object) if necessary?

            IANAL, but that being said, if that's the case then the poster has the right to press charges and/or sue the guard and/or the store.  A security guard can only detain a person and make a citizen's arrest if the guard saw the crime taking place.  Otherwise, the guard has the same rights to detain and search someone else as the average person.  A security guard isn't allowed to search a person without consent and certainly not allowed to detain/search someone just because they think a person committed a crime.

            •  That is not entirely accurate. In some states (1+ / 0-)
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              a store security guard has the power to detain/search someone if they have a reasonable suspicion that they were trying to steal from the store.  In other words, in those states store security guards have expanded rights to detain/search/arrest beyond what an ordinary person would have (but less than a police officer would).  Also, in some states an ordinary citizen only needs reasonable suspicion to carry out a citizen's arrest and are protected if they are wrong provided they can show reasonable suspicion.  

              Of course, IANAL and the limitations and potential liability will vary between states so the safest thing to do is just call 911 and let the police handle it.

              You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

              by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 01:00:42 AM PST

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        •  A friend of mine (2+ / 0-)
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          chiefsjen, Silvia Nightshade

          shopped at a store that made a practice of holding all of your bags at a counter by the door when you came in, so one time she decided to turn the tables.  She brought a drug store bag filled with condoms and tampons and when the guard asked her to leave her bag at the counter, she gave it to him and insisted in a loud voice that he tally the contents in front of her because, she said, "she didn't want any store employees Christmas shopping through her belongings".  When she left, she demanded that the guard empty the bag and recount all of the items to be sure none was missing.  She reports that the guy was clearly uncomfortable, but that she enjoyed the whole thing immensely.    

          •  Ugh man (0+ / 0-)

            She put the poor guy, who is probably making $7.25 an hour, through all THAT?  Why doesn't she just not stop at the store if she doesn't agree with the store's policies.  Wow, that is callous - I feel bad for the poor guy.   Like his job isn't miserable enough, someone has to come in and ruin his day, just to make a point about the store's policies.

            •  nah (0+ / 0-)

              7.25 guy was a guy.
              if he had to force a customer (especially a child) to disgorge and line up the contents of their carryable, then 7.25 guy would feel bad. (hey! what's a 8 year old doing with a packfull of pastrami flavored condoms?)

              but in this story, 7.25 guy thought to himself either, "ha ha ha, you made my day, miss."
              or he thought, "this is why they pay me the big bucks. But no they don't, bah."

    •  so many replicants on DK these days (0+ / 0-)

      LEFTOVER HAM DINNER     
      2 c. ham strips
      2 tbsp. butter
      1 pkg. long grain and wild rice
      2 med. cans of Dole pineapple chunks
      Brown the ham strips in the butter. Add the long grain and wild rice mix with the seasonings. Drain syrup from the cans of pineapple and add enough water to make 2 1/2 cups of liquid. Stir into skillet. Cover and cook until the liquid is absorbed. Add the pineapple chunks and serve.

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