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  •  oldnorthstate - in the US Treason as a crime (9+ / 0-)

    has a very distinct set of requirements. None of Scott's actions qualify.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 05:02:15 PM PST

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    •  Treason is siding with enemies of the US (8+ / 0-)

      You can commit really bad crimes without being guilty of treason: I.e. Murder etc. Treason would be like working with Al Qaeda or Iran to undermine US elections or something.

      What Scott and the Republicans are doing is profoundly anti-democratic and is really scary, but I don't think "treason" applies. Sorry :(

      When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

      by PhillyJeff on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 05:54:34 PM PST

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      •  How do we not know he is not working with the (0+ / 0-)

        enemy?  The enemy of the state would be an outbreak of TB and he hid that in a motel.  What is the argument of that?  What crime would that fall under?  

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        by Vetwife on Tue Nov 06, 2012 at 04:52:46 AM PST

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    •  the definition (2+ / 0-)
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      of the word treason isn't necessarily the same thing as the law you're describing.

      the original use of the word can be correct, even if it doesn't fit your legal definition.

    •  fuck that shit VCLib (0+ / 0-)

      if he distroys the right to vote you can stick legal definitions up your ass, there will be none since they depend on a working constitution.

      America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

      by cacamp on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 08:42:43 PM PST

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      •  cacamp - my aren't we angry this evening (6+ / 0-)

        We all have our pet peeves and this is one of mine. Whenever I see the word treason in a diary title I'll comment to let the author know that it is a word that should be used with care because it has a specific meaning in the US. The authors of the Constitution carefully delineated the crime of treason in Article III, narrowly defining its elements and setting forth stringent evidentiary requirements. There have been approximately 30 treason trials in the entire history of the United States, so this is a crime rarely committed and prosecuted. That's my only point. Scott is reprehensible and his behavior is criminal, but it is certainly not treason.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 09:14:34 PM PST

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        •  that's not true at all (0+ / 0-)

          you join in many diaries to protect the far right wingnuts. I wouldn't have caught on to you if it was only about a pet peeve for the word treason. I know you from all the many other comments you make in defense of the GOP and far right.

          It took me awhile to catch on to what you've been doing, maybe others who read here as much as I do will catch on pretty soon.

          America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

          by cacamp on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 10:27:22 PM PST

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        •  The word and idea of treason is used in many (0+ / 0-)

          ways in the United States.  "He's a traitor to his race."  Ever heard that one?  No legal mumbo jumbo there.  Everyone knows what that phrase means.  It's ugly, and it's meaningful, even if the Constitution asserts a very different and quite specific meaning for the crime defined in that document.

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          by Alice Olson on Tue Nov 06, 2012 at 06:15:40 AM PST

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