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  •  You're correct, I mis-identified the comment (1+ / 0-)
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    Cartoon Peril

    I responded to as the diarist.

    I apologize to Cartoon Peril.

    And no, I don't see the benefit to conscious-raising about slavery, beyond saying it's immoral and evil. I think some find the stories of slaves being raped and abused as titillating - that's why I call it slave porn.

    I do see a benefit regarding the genocide attempted against the Indians and in the Holocaust against the many groups the Nazis didn't like.

    And Great FSM,

    the more we study and are conscious of the way they were begun and perpetuated, the better we understand ourselves.
    Where and what is evidence of this greater understanding?

    Voter suppression?

    I'm not impressed.

    "I believe more women should carry guns. I believe armed women will make the world a better place. Women need to come to think of themselves not as victims but as dangerous." Anna Pigeon

    by glorificus on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:17:15 AM PST

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    •  You apparently think (1+ / 0-)
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      that learning about history, which is where we came from, is rarely useful. I don't understand why. It's like questioning why we should be interested in astronomy or biology or geography. All those disciplines help us to understand the context in which we live.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:19:38 AM PST

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      •  I think learning about history is great, and we (0+ / 0-)

        don't do enough of it. I see the focus on slave porn here at DK where little else is brought forward as lop-sided and, as I said, unnecessary.

        Maybe there have been lots of diaries on here discussing American political history or the benefits of Marovengians or philosophies of ancient China and I haven't seen them.

        "I believe more women should carry guns. I believe armed women will make the world a better place. Women need to come to think of themselves not as victims but as dangerous." Anna Pigeon

        by glorificus on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:29:34 AM PST

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        •  Where's the porn in this? (1+ / 0-)
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          swampyankee

          It's a legal document.

          Besides, I disagree with you on that, too. You think photographs of slaves or genocides are not important historical documents?

          Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

          by MichaelNY on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:36:04 AM PST

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        •  Enslaving a people or individual can be (2+ / 0-)
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          accomplished in more ways than actually physically having ownership of their bodies. The financial aspect is really important because we continue to enslave in the general sense everyday thru low wages, lack of opportunity and poor educational options. Citizens of whole countries are enslaved, again in the general sense by things like Colonialism. It is one thing to be able to go to the bank and borrow against the value of your slaves, but we also moved to oppress whole groups like Native Americans, take everything of value and giving them nothing in return. Colonialism did the same thing striping everything of value while ignoring the welfare of indigenous people. Slavery in all its forms is hardly gone, just evolved into something less likely to be recognized for what it really is and in some ways more socially acceptable in modern day capitalism.

          The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die. ~ Edward M. (Ted) Kennedy

          by cherie clark on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:47:23 AM PST

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