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    has 7 masters Degrees.  Mostly in various sorts of science.  He got his MBA when he became the liaison between the engineers and the managers, and has said it should be a 1 semester course, because it is really not anything deep or special.

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    by trumpeter on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:26:45 PM PST

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    •  My Dad said the same (3+ / 0-)
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      He was a math/engineering guy who eventually moved to management and later set up his own business. Was also chair of the local Chamber of Commerce in a large city, and has a resume a mile long of other things. He's a smart guy, and was a successful businessman.

      He started on getting an MBA years ago, and given that it was a timesuck while working full time and raising a family, he decided that he just wasn't learning anything terribly useful from it to justify continuing. His success in business had more to do with using his natural smarts and common sense, reading independently, watching and talking to others in business, and planning for contingencies.

      I've heard way too many anecdotes of bright young MBAs coming into a company and screwing things up. Then there's GWB and Mitt. It seems that good business skills rely more on an individual's talent and drive, and I've had occasion to wonder just what kind of crap they're teaching people in these programs.

      My evidence is anecdotal, so I appreciate hearing your Dad's opinion.

      •  I have to defend us MBA's (4+ / 0-)
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        I feel that I learned a huge amount in my MBA program from University of Southern California, as my previous degree in Mechanical Engineering had very little to help me understand the company and the policitics within. The finance and accounting classes helped me argue with the asshats and keep people from being laid off, the Human resources and management and communucations classes helped me handle ensuring that  the transition of a transgendered employee was harrassment free for that employee, and the strategic planning classes have helped me in my whole life.  Now that I'm a self employed Realtor, it is all still very useful.  It's not the MBA programs that are terrible, it is the country's belief that those newly minted MBA's are wasting their degrees if they don't go to work for a venture capital firm.  Just as Obama didn't "waste" his law degree, not every MBA goes only for the money.

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        by Former Chicagoan Now Angeleno on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:16:04 PM PST

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        •  Different Types of MBAs (2+ / 0-)
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          MBA degrees come in all flavors.  It depends on whether they focus on operational aspects of business or just finance.  The finance types think that a business can be distilled down exclusively to the finance numbers, as if one could model a business using only that metric.  Unfortunately, that particular flavor of MBA has been in the ascendant for the last forty years with the financialization of the American economy and all its attendant defects.

          "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

          by PrahaPartizan on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 11:52:49 PM PST

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