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  •  Obama sets himself up for failure again. (9+ / 0-)
    Instead, you want cooperation. You want action. That’s what I plan to deliver in my second term, and I expect to find leaders from both parties willing to join me.
    Will he never learn?

    The fact is that Obama can't deliver cooperation or action. Both of those things depend on Republicans and Republicans are not going to try to make his second term a success any more than they made his first term success. They still want him to fail and their success still depends on making him fail.

    I hope Obama has a tougher response this time when the Repukes obstruct and refuse to compromise.

    •  He has the stick (6+ / 0-)

      He has the carrot.

      If the GOP refuses to cooperate, they will be seeing big tax increases for all and Democrats will be able to point out that these tax increases are Republican tax increases.

      The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

      by freelunch on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:19:02 AM PST

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    •  Is posturing (10+ / 0-)
      The fact is that Obama can't deliver cooperation or action.
      PBO has to set a conciliatory tone, regardless of how hard he plans to push for our position.

      is akin to "proceed governor" the GOP's congress leadership should be the one looking infantile, shrill  and wrong.

      "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

      by IamTheJudge on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:19:56 AM PST

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    •  He Needs to stay involved (9+ / 0-)

      He makes a speech every few weeks on something, leaves it to Congress to work out and assumes that Republicans are negotiating in good faith.  It's fairly clear that Republicans are willing to take hostages and kill those hostages to prevent Obama from accomplishing anything or getting any credit.

      The only way things will work this time is if the Democrats start acting like Republicans- get a few solid talking points and keep using them on every media outlet they can get on.  Don't go off message and don't let up on this issue.

      Obama needs to use his office to do the same- he has to stay involved, give speeches, hold press conferences, etc. on this issue.  In other words, he has to sell this. The only way that the House will bend is if public sentiment smothers them (and even then its a maybe)

      •  President Obama sasid, "Make me do it." It's time (0+ / 0-)

        for the grassroots/networks that got him re-elected to collect. Activists got him relected, he knows it, gave him a clear Senate majority, he knows it. Act Blue money from Kossacks?

        Over 300, 000 Kossacks. As a Kossack asked, where's my Senator kos?

        The WH needs to have pressure, the congress critters need to have pressure. No playing with Obstructionists(formerly)known as republicans.

        No playing with dinosaurs, or alligators or vipers. No compromise. None.

        2012-2016 President Obama, Vice President Biden, Senator Warren. For a LIFETIME, federal judges. Get the filibuster changed. Harry, the people have spoken. To all Democrats: do not reach across the aisle, your hand will get cut off. Steamroll.

        by CuriousBoston on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 11:33:36 AM PST

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    •  cnn is saying that it is O who must compromise (3+ / 0-)
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      ...meaning he has to cave, or it will be his fault if we go back into recession.

      After all, he is the reasonable one.

      Sounds like the narrative needs to change or the situation never will.

      This is like the govt shutdown, only we will be blamed this time.

      •  CNN is Fox lite (8+ / 0-)

        On Fox Steve Doocy and company said they hoped Obama learned from Tuesday night that Americans are tired of his politics and his style. Daily Show and SNL writers don't even have to write stuff anymore...

        •  i've dubbed them the conservative news network (2+ / 0-)
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          But, they are more mainstream than fox.  Local news ends to mirror cnn more than nbc.

          My point is we will lose the argument if everyone expects O to adopt the right wings demands because the right wing is pshyco and won't stop pulling the trigger in Russian roulette.

      •  Not just CNN--everyone is saying this. (3+ / 0-)
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        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:40:07 AM PST

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        •  I'm not. The President damn well knows who got (1+ / 0-)
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          him elected. The mainstream media don't matter. WE DO!
          Kossacks = over 300, 000. The grassroots and netroots worked asses off for months getting him elected, giving him a clear majority in the Senate.

          We need to remind him that WE are here to collect. The WH and our congress critters need to hear from us.

          As kovie suggested,  Occupy their offices. Angie in Washington suggested several things using the DKos group Citizen Lobbyist.

          The President, all the re-elected and newly elected critters owe us. time to remind them.

          Kerry contact page on my favories bar, two emails a day, one for him to thank Majority Leader Reid for stating that Social Security is off the table, another to tell-tell, not ask-President Obama not to compromise.

          I did send another email to Kerry. If he takes SOS, MA will need to have a special election to replace him. I'd rather not have another election just now!

          2012-2016 President Obama, Vice President Biden, Senator Warren. For a LIFETIME, federal judges. Get the filibuster changed. Harry, the people have spoken. To all Democrats: do not reach across the aisle, your hand will get cut off. Steamroll.

          by CuriousBoston on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 11:43:32 AM PST

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      •  There's more than one way to compromise... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...unfortunately, what most of the beltway pundits mean by "compromise" is "give the Republicans what they want" -- massive budget cuts offset by new revenue that is generated by taking away tax loopholes that benefit lower and middle income people.

        That, needless to say, is "compromise" that Democrats should reject.

        Reasonable compromise, on the other hand, could involve phasing in expiration of tax cuts on the wealthy.  For example, tax cuts on those making over $1 million could expire next year, then for those making between $500,000 and $999,999 the year after, and those making between $250,000 and $499,999 the year after that.  That's not the only possibility, but it is an example of the sort of thing that the President could accept in order to let Republicans claim something...

        Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

        by TexasTom on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:18:46 AM PST

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      •  How many divisions does Wolf Blitzer have? (1+ / 0-)
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        CNN and the rest of the media did everything they could to prop up Romney after the first debate, and they failed miserably. Voters weren't buying the crap sandwich that they were selling.

        Some things just aren't that complicated, folks. Tax cuts for the rich: BAD. Tax cuts for the rest of us: GOOD. If Obama and the Democrats take that message to the people, they'll win.

        There's no such thing as a moderate Republican.

        by maksutov66 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:55:22 AM PST

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    •  I'm confused. (8+ / 0-)

      Why can't O just allow all the Bush tax cuts to expire, and then propose a tax cut for the non-rich. Surely the R's would have to pass that?

      GOP: Bankers, billionaires, suckers, and dupes.

      by gzodik on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:45:59 AM PST

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    •  Cooperation sure. Appeasement, no. (1+ / 0-)
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      Appeasement didn't work for Chamberlain with you-know-who, didn't work for Democrats with W, didn't work for Obama with his "friends across the aisle" in his first term.  Do you suppose he's got the picture yet?

      (I'm assuming here that he's seriously trying to achieve what he says he is.)

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