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  •  You think Hillary is gonna' run in 16? (8+ / 0-)

    I have my doubts on that.

    •  I do think she will. (11+ / 0-)

      She's a fighter and if we are faced with a fork in the road as I think we will be. Where one side leads to the kind of protection and growth of what President Obama will have achieved, and the other side leads to a repeal of that progress- similar to the crossroads we were at in 2000, than I think Hillary will step up to continue the good fight.

      But even if she doesn't we have a pretty strong field of candidates sitting on the bench. We may end up running old Joe after all if these next four years are exceptionally good and Biden can sort of make over his image as a bit of a goofball.

      Don't get me wrong, I love the guy but he has a bit of an image problem in the seriousness department.

      We lose if we choose to forget; the lives of men, and money spent.

      by DeanDemocrat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:34:29 PM PST

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      •  regardless, your point stands (6+ / 0-)

        I don't see much value in making candidate predictions in the week following an election, but the thrust of your post doesn't hinge on Will She Or Won't She?
        The Obama machine will still be operative in 2014, and its mission will be to hold the Senate, deliver the House and end the intrinsic obstruction of the Right. If the GOP just picks up where it left off, it will be decimated in 2014.
         Unlike you, I think that would be fine. We have gone so far down Wingnut Lane I think the USA could benefit from four or eight years of absent opposition. Beyond that, internal rot will set in, and that would be bad.

        As the dust settles, the reality distortion field of the Right is still holding. But perhaps they can at least admit that the Obama team is damn good at winning elections, and continuing on will as they are will bring the full artillery of the O team on them once again. It would be precisely the mistake of running against Obama again, and they will lose. Again. Comforting themselves with nostalgia for 2010 while forgetting 2006, 2008, and 2012 would be fatal.

        R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

        by kamarvt on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:57:09 AM PST

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        •  I don't know (5+ / 0-)

          The dems controlled the congress, with rare exceptions, for 40 yrs after fdr. At times we had a veto proof majority, so it really wouldn't have mattered who the pres was.

          For the bulk of that time, they were fine.

          If the GOP insists on playing moral police, they will continue to lose, and they'll lose more and more seats they considered safe.

          The GOP seems to think people want govt to leave business alone and worry about people's private decisions. They're wrong. People think govt belongs in the boardroom, not the bedroom.

          •  campaign $$ is the difference (2+ / 0-)
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            StrayCat, No one gets out alive

            And the general growth of corruption in the form of revolving doors, etc available to federal pols. It's a far, far more lucrative career path than at any time since the turn of the 20th century.
            The sheer amount of hard-to-trace dark money being pumped into the Capitol today is extremely tempting for people who (by and large0 have the outsized egos, self-assurance, and ambition to want to run for office in the first place.
            That's why I give the dems 8 years instead of 40 before they succumb to rot of one sort or another.
            That said, there are any number of outside factors that could influence this arc; campaign finance reform, the overturning of Citizen's United, the quality of candidates running, continued perfidy by the GOP, and the RWNM's hyperventilating over dem conduct are just a few.
            oh, and you're spot on about the results if the GOP keeps chasing culture wars into oblivion. Let 'em.

            R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

            by kamarvt on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:15:20 AM PST

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        •  If The GOP Truly Followed The Advice Of This.... (5+ / 0-)

          ...diarist, I would be very happy.

          It would be good for their party and good for America.

          I'm not holding my breath waiting for such an outcome.

          Meanwhile, Democrats need to play hardball and kick ass and take back the House along with getting a 60 plus majority in the Senate along with the presidency in 2016.   And then, maybe, we can also have enough appointees to the scotus and the federal judiciary to begin to reverse the damage done since Reagan took office.

          At some point the GOP as it is now must cease to exist.

      •  I think Joe Biden would make the perfect VP and (0+ / 0-)

        set a record for VP longevity that will never[?] be broken..

        "Round up the usual suspects"

        by NanaoKnows on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:21:37 AM PST

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