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  •  And here's why that's wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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    Neon Mama

    Words are not owned by the person being talked ABOUT.  I don't get to tell you "from now on I insist on being referred to as a genius, and if you choose not to do that, you're being intolerant."  The meaning of a word is not defined purely by the people who use it as a label for themselves.  If I insisted on being labeled a genius you would be well within your rights to say "no" if you didn't think I fit the definition.

    What you call yourself is a matter of controlling your OWN speech.  Demanding that others must call you what you insist on being called is controlling their speech.

    •  Good grief (0+ / 0-)

      Ok, I will no longer attempt to adjudicate between competing people claiming the title "Christian." Though to be blunt, there is no empirical definition of "Christian." These people say its this, those people says its that. But as the whole concept exists inside people's heads, and only inside people's heads, it's all a matter of personal preference.

      "Genius," by the way, at least can be thought of in relative terms, so there is some basis for ignoring people making absurd claims there.

      Conservatives believe evil comes from violating rules. Liberals believe evil comes from violating each other.

      by tcorse on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:25:49 PM PST

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      •  Totally missing the point there. (0+ / 0-)

        The point is that you tried the justification that a word only means what the people who use it for THEMSELVES say it means.  This is NOT how language works, and it's important to point this out because demanding that others must call you what you insist they call you is an attempt to control THEIR speech.

        "I want to call myself X"
        is a totally different statement from
        "I want everyone else to call me X".

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