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  •  Let's put it this way (2+ / 0-)
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    Forbidding such practices is much more abhorrent to me than doing them. My religion does not believe in damnation, for the most part, so those kinds of stories were part of my childhood only inasmuch as missionaries tried unsuccessfully to convert me or I saw some fire and brimstone preacher on TV. I don't approve, but that's a far cry from conflating it with actions that fall under legal statutes as constituting child abuse.

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    by MichaelNY on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:22:36 AM PST

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    •  My hope is that someday those actions will be (0+ / 0-)

      covered by child abuse statues. Then the human race can grow beyond the mental virus that is religion.

      Not spirituality, not religious experience,  not faith, hope, charity, or any other virtues, but religion based on nothing but what one has chosen to believe or been coerced to believe: that is what the human race needs to grow beyond.

      Reaganomics noun pl: belief that unregulated capitalism can produce unlimited goods for unlimited people on a planet with finite resources and we the people can increase revenue by decreasing revenue.

      by FrY10cK on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 07:59:30 AM PST

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      •  Forbidding fire and brimstone preaching (0+ / 0-)

        by statute is a step toward totalitarianism. It's precisely the forms of speech that we most hate that need the highest level of protection. Many atheistic members of the ACLU would and have said that exact thing.

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        by MichaelNY on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 12:46:02 PM PST

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        •  No. Minors need protection from coercive (0+ / 0-)

          speech, from coercion in general.

          Once they reach the age of majority they're fair game for the proselytizers and hucksters.

          Reaganomics noun pl: belief that unregulated capitalism can produce unlimited goods for unlimited people on a planet with finite resources and we the people can increase revenue by decreasing revenue.

          by FrY10cK on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 01:37:32 PM PST

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