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  •  I think you're right (2+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY, LordMike

    It's hard to see any meaningful immigration reform passing the House.  Republicans are completely screwed on this issue.  They need to get it passed to gain any credibility whatsoever with the growing Hispanic vote, but they know if they vote for it they're probably losing their next primary.

    •  a lot will depend on which post-election (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      narrative wins. If Republicans believes they lost because of "demographics" (i.e. racism), then I could see house GOPers sucking it up and vote for comprehensive immigration reform, especially if Fox News is on board. They could justify voting for a pathway to citizenship by emphasizing the other parts of the bill, such as enhanced border security. However, if Republicans believe they lost because Romney wasn't sufficiently conservative or because the GOP's message (but not platform) was unpopular, then there's no way comprehensive immigration reform will pass the House. Right now, it's too early to tell which narrative is going to win.

    •  Depends on Boehner (5+ / 0-)

      If Boehner wants to win it with Republican votes, it won't pass. But if he is ready to bring it to the floor and only get half of his caucus and 80% of the Democratic one, it will win.
      It is about Boehner and how confident he is that he can survive as Speaker even if he brings something to the floor that can only win largely with Democratic votes.

      From what I read about the fiscal cliff showdown in today's NYT, he is ready to do that in his Congress whereas he did not want to in the previous one.

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