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  •  i was amazed metropolitan Birmingham... (1+ / 0-)
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    barely over performed the rest of the state. Obama got 39% of the vote in the 7 county area and only 52.6% of the vote in Birmingham's County (Jefferson).

    •  President Obama carried Jefferson County (1+ / 0-)
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      MSAs are constructed by the Census Bureau based on economic relationships. An MSA should not be conflated with the city whose name it bears or even the county where that city is located.

      Jefferson County (where Birmingham is actually located) has a population of about 700,000. The population inside city limits (250,000 give or take) is 80% African American. Most of Jefferson County is part of the neon blue 7th Congressional District. The other 6 MSA counties are not.

      Yes, many people in the other 6 counties of the MSA must commute to Jefferson County for work. But those counties are not urban or even suburban in character.

      The entire population of Bibb County, for example, is about 22,000. Parts of Chilton County are about as close to Montgomery as to Birmingham. There's a lot of (semi-)rural and agricultural territory in the MSA, and the folks who live there never step foot in Birmingham unless they need a tertiary care hospital.

      I work with some of the commuters. They are happy to have a good job with benefits at the university. But they would never in a million years tell you they live in Birmingham. Because they don't. They live -- and shop and go to church and join the Rotary Club -- in Jasper or Clanton or Oneonta.

      Just because you're not a drummer doesn't mean that you don't have to keep time. -- T. Monk

      by susanala on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 09:46:20 AM PST

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      •  I'm well aware what MSAs are. (1+ / 0-)
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        The fact remains. The Birmingham MSA is one of the most conservative regions in the nation. Just a tad bit more Democratic leaning than the following MSAs: Salt Lake City, Wichita, Colorado Springs, Boise, Oklahoma City but less Democratic voting than these MSAs: Little Rock, Baton Rouge, Omaha, Spokane, Cincinnatti, Nashville, Jackson, MS and Lexington.

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