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  •  framing for liberals is a different beast than (3+ / 0-)
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    framing to include those who voted for Mitt Romney.

     the debt issue has already been framed (thank you, 112th House). progressives have any hope of leading republican voters out of their multi-dimensional-denials aren't going to succeed by just talking about keynesian economics.  i've listened in on these conversations for going on 17 years and the republican frame is "Debt is Bad."  that's one tough frame to break.

    just getting republicans to the point where they understand saint ronnie and young george added to the Big Bad Debt is half the frame.  "Oh!  if ronnie did it...."  

    framing isn't as easy as laying out factiod veggies for the delusionalists to chomp on... they'll go for chips everytime.

    "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

    by kj in missouri on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 03:11:55 PM PST

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    •  Well, then... (0+ / 0-)
      the republican frame is "Debt is Bad."  that's one tough frame to break.
      If debt is so bad, they should be welcoming sequestration as it immediately sends the economy in the direction of reducing the deficit, right?

      Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

      by Ian S on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 04:00:21 PM PST

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    •  A lot of working stiffs just want to know, when (4+ / 0-)

      they sign the bottom of their 1040's, that the people in Washington take their sacrifice seriously.
      It's personal, and painful.
      It has been successfully demagogued for 40 years.
      A lot of Mitt Romney voters are brainwashed by the "frame".
      This is the source of Grover Norquist's power.
      In order to gain the confidence of those "swing voters" the Dems need to use the existing vocabulary and alphabet and communicate awareness of how the average person feels about spending in Washington.
       I agree with you, in other words.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 04:23:14 PM PST

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    •  I thought Cheney said... (1+ / 0-)
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      Deficits don't matter!


      I listen to wingnut radio so you don't have to!

      by Sharon on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:29:40 PM PST

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